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Re: Best recommendation for out of band router access?


From: Ryan Kozak via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2025 22:40:44 +0000

I've had customers who wanted to run more than just a console server on their OOB network and wanted a local firewall 
to put some controls around it. The Juniper branch SRXes can do 4G on an MPIM and Mist makes it interesting: you can 
give the boxes an in-band L3VPN and use that plus the OOB feed (wired or LTE) as two paths for the Mist SD-WAN back to 
your headend locations. They can also run Juniper's remote access VPN locally at each site at the same time if you 
want, all with security enforcement local to the site.

Overkill for a lot of shops but depending on what you want, and maybe how much of a Juniper shop you are, it's an 
interesting solution.

Regards,
Ryan


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On 2025-09-25 09:39, Trey Scarborough via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:

 We typically use a mikrotik LTAP orChateau depending on the location.
 with a mix of LTE providers depending on location and don't worry about
 static IPs. They all have wireguard connections back to a vps hosted
 outside our network. In Data centers we use one of the IOT sim providers
 that is sub $10 a month mainly because the LTE is just used to get the
 router on the datacenters WIFI. After that if we need to download
 firmware or anything that would be of any size its not over the LTE. In
 our remote sites we started using US mobile as you can pool your data
 plans and they provide access to ATT, T-mobile, and VZ networks. You can
 load all 3 sims in a router ship it and then use which network network
 is best after its on site.
 
 
 Trey
 
 
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in downtown Los Angeles where the idea of paying a monthly for a cross connect to get a phone line is just not 
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have some kind of a bridge functionality where it will establish a mobile IP connection and then plug into my switch?
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thousands, but a few hundred dollars on gear seems reasonable.
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