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IPv8 / BGP8 / CF


From: Jamie Thain via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2026 14:03:34 -0500

Hi All,

My name is Jamie Thain I'm the creator of IPv8. It's not a hoax.

I joined this list because, as part of IPv8, I am creating a BGPv8. Inside
BGPv8, two new protocols CF (Cost Factor), weigh cost factors along the
routes to produce a better metric. It's a hybrid of EIRGP mixed with BGP to
create better engineering results.

I also as part of CF created Sun Tzu which is the protocol that watches CF
and gives you a CF score of reliability.  Do I trust my partnership with
you?

Now, beyond an on-slaught of IPv8 is stupid, IPv6 solves every problem,
etc, etc. That's not my discussion point. My point isn't "should I even
propose IPv8" my point is what would be the best result for operators?

I believe that since IPv8 solves the duopoly problem, it will replace
IPv4.

So the things to know, IPV8 is NOT a 64 bit addressing system.

It is a 32 bit routing system with a 32 bit addressing system.

A Routing Number = ASNs plus others.

8.8.8.8 would become 15169.8.8.8.8

https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-thain-ipv8-02.html
<https://l.shortlink.es/l/3ae384c1b8e2eb92749595407c5cf9b87ea3372a?u=12457652>


So each ASN in the world will have 3 Billion available addresses.

There is a specially reserved group of internal ASN 127.x.x.x so each corp,
org, has 16 Million areas of 3 Billion addresses, to replace 10.x.x.x and
100.64.x.x.x

I'd appreciate your thoughts on it

Jamie
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