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Re: New DNS vulnerability: political overreach


From: Amir Herzberg via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2026 11:04:22 -0400

Allan, I agree with Andy: this isn’t a technical concern. Frankly I feel
like your title was a bait, causing people like me working on real dns
security to read your post , although I believe unintentionally. It isn’t a
technical issue since nobody said all companies must use the com tld. If
there’s sufficient demand surely someone will set up an alternative tld out
of the US jurisdiction . So… problem solved? No need in new technology?

And sorry if I’m grumpy today, it has been one of these days…. Amir


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On Sun, Jul 19, 2026 at 9:37 AM Allan Liska via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
wrote:

Considering that this is the second time in less than a week that a
company has had their domain taken off line at the Registrar level (
https://techcrunch.com/2026/07/14/telegrams-shortlink-domain-is-back-online-after-day-long-suspension/)
I do think there is a legitmate technical concern here, though I'd argue it
is far from new.

It is a scenario that most companies don't account for, but depending on
the type of business you are in, it is a very real concern and you should
have a response plan in place.


allan
On Sunday, July 19th, 2026 at 9:08 AM, Andy Ringsmuth via NANOG <
nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:

Can we keep politics and personal opinions separate and independent of
the technical aspects of the issue at hand (if there are any)? Per the
NANOG list info page:

"Appropriate topics include: routing; broad-based engineering
problems/issues/solutions; outages; performance measurement; evolving
wide-area technologies; exchange points; traffic engineering; operational
experience; ISP security; and trouble ticket systems."

Is there an actual legit technical issue here that needs discussion or
solving?

----
Andy Ringsmuth
andy () andyring com

Love others, encourage others, help others.

On Jul 19, 2026, at 6:05 AM, Kevin Tillery via NANOG <
nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:

A Texas court has suspended the .com domain of a Dutch porn site which
doesn't have any business presence in Texas, because it doesn't comply with
Texas rules about porn (which are extremely onerous):


https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/news/releases/attorney-general-ken-paxton-secures-landmark-legal-victory-lock-pornographic-website-domain-and

Clearly the US is not fit to manage top-level domains (other than .us
of course) even though it ended up with them by historical accident. It
worked for a while but now it's not working any more. Has anyone come up
with any plan to solve this and make the DNS more neutral?

As a first step I'd think about experimenting with a DNS resolver that
would move all US TLDs to subdomains of .us. However that obviously would
just break the current internet for whoever is using this resolver, at
least due to widespread use of vhosts.

Kevin
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