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Re: IPv4 flag day
From: William Herrin via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2026 11:52:20 -0700
On Thu, Jun 18, 2026 at 11:26 AM <sronan () ronan-online com> wrote:
Can we agree NAT is NOT a Firewall first?
1:Many NAT (sometimes called PAT) uses a stateful packet inspection firewall as an inherent part of its technology core. It can't exist without that firewall technology. While 1:1 NAT does exist and does not require any firewall technology, it sees so little use that the module for stateless 1:1 IPv4 NAT was dropped from the Linux kernel more than a decade ago. So no, we can't agree to a statement that's objectively false. Kinda sad that the kernel devs dropped it actually. I had a great use for 1:1 NAT to work around an AWS limitation in 2017 but ended up having to use Linux's stateful NAT instead. Regards, Bill Herrin -- For hire. https://bill.herrin.us/resume/ _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/nanog () lists nanog org/message/6C7KDLOEV4SQIXDMTKXQLFSEHS7KQYD2/
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