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Re: IPv4 flag day


From: William Herrin via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2026 11:52:20 -0700

On Thu, Jun 18, 2026 at 11:26 AM <sronan () ronan-online com> wrote:
Can we agree NAT is NOT a Firewall first?

1:Many NAT (sometimes called PAT) uses a stateful packet inspection
firewall as an inherent part of its technology core. It can't exist
without that firewall technology.

While 1:1 NAT does exist and does not require any firewall technology,
it sees so little use that the module for stateless 1:1 IPv4 NAT was
dropped from the Linux kernel more than a decade ago.

So no, we can't agree to a statement that's objectively false.

Kinda sad that the kernel devs dropped it actually. I had a great use
for 1:1 NAT to work around an AWS limitation in 2017 but ended up
having to use Linux's stateful NAT instead.

Regards,
Bill Herrin


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