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Re: IPv4 flag day
From: Brian Knight via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2026 09:53:00 -0500
On 2026-06-16 01:33, Saku Ytti via NANOG wrote:
Does anyone feel responsibility for the dual stack mess we've created? It wasn't here when we found the Internet, and we're going to leave it here after we leave, does not really jive with the whole leave campground cleaner than found it ethos.
It was the most comprehensive solution for the NAT problem. But NAT became the accepted way we connect to the Internet.
World + dog knows how to connect to it, troubleshoot it, look at NAT tables on their edge firewall or router.
Is NAT still such a severe problem that we needed a different protocol? Ask 1000 NANOG engineers, get 1000 different answers. In practice, no. IPv4 still works.
Economics are a slightly different story, but so far, IPv4 space isn't prohibitively expensive.
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Current thread:
- Re: IPv4 flag day, (continued)
- Re: IPv4 flag day Randy Bush via NANOG (Jun 16)
- Re: IPv4 flag day Jeff Shultz via NANOG (Jun 16)
- Re: IPv4 flag day Randy Bush via NANOG (Jun 16)
- Re: IPv4 flag day Douglas Fischer via NANOG (Jun 16)
- Re: IPv4 flag day Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG (Jun 16)
- Re: IPv4 flag day Randy Bush via NANOG (Jun 16)
- Re: IPv4 flag day John Curran via NANOG (Jun 16)
- Re: IPv4 flag day Marco Moock via NANOG (Jun 16)
- Re: IPv4 flag day Saku Ytti via NANOG (Jun 16)
- Re: IPv4 flag day Tom Beecher via NANOG (Jun 16)
- Re: IPv4 flag day Arie Vayner via NANOG (Jun 16)
- Re: IPv4 flag day Tom Beecher via NANOG (Jun 16)
- Re: IPv4 flag day sronan--- via NANOG (Jun 16)
- Re: IPv4 flag day Arie Vayner via NANOG (Jun 16)
- Re: IPv4 flag day Matthew Petach via NANOG (Jun 16)
- RE: IPv4 flag day Gary Sparkes via NANOG (Jun 16)
- RE: IPv4 flag day Vasilenko Eduard via NANOG (Jun 16)
- Re: IPv4 flag day Marco Moock via NANOG (Jun 17)
- Re: IPv4 flag day Matthew Petach via NANOG (Jun 17)
