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Re: [Bug]? -iR <num_hosts> on windows XP generates duplicate targets
From: David Fifield <david () bamsoftware com>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:06:55 -0600
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 09:44:42PM +0000, Brandon Enright wrote:
So what this really gets down to is the need to stop using rand() on Windows. OpenSSL provides an excellent RNG so if/when OpenSSL gets integrated into Windows we can side-step this whole issue. The other (not mutually-exclusive) option available to us is to implement our own PRNG using Mersenne Twister or some other high-quality PRNG. This has a few advantages over what we have right now: * Even if OpenSSL isn't compiled in, we'll still have a good RNG source * We could implement a --seed option to generate the *same* set of IPs across all operating systems Nmap runs on
This seems unstable to me. The IP generator would need its own random state to avoid being desynchronized by other things that need random numbers, like acknowledgement numbers. Two runs could get out of sync after the first scan group, if a different number of retransmits were necessary, say. Even if the IP generator has its own state, you could get different results across versions because of different reserved IP ranges. That's not so bad, because any IP address that became reserved would be omitted in the newer version and replaced by a different IP at the end of the list. But it means you couldn't count on the same seed giving you the exact same IP addresses. David Fifield _______________________________________________ Sent through the nmap-dev mailing list http://cgi.insecure.org/mailman/listinfo/nmap-dev Archived at http://SecLists.Org
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- Re: [Bug]? -iR <num_hosts> on windows XP generates duplicate targets Fyodor (Apr 23)
- Re: [Bug]? -iR <num_hosts> on windows XP generates duplicate targets Brandon Enright (Apr 23)
- Re: [Bug]? -iR <num_hosts> on windows XP generates duplicate targets jah (Apr 23)
- Re: [Bug]? -iR <num_hosts> on windows XP generates duplicate targets Fyodor (Apr 23)
- Re: [Bug]? -iR <num_hosts> on windows XP generates duplicate targets Brandon Enright (Apr 23)
- RE: [Bug]? -iR <num_hosts> on windows XP generates duplicate targets Thomas Buchanan (Apr 23)
- Re: [Bug]? -iR <num_hosts> on windows XP generates duplicate targets Fyodor (Apr 23)
- Re: [Bug]? -iR <num_hosts> on windows XP generates duplicate targets jah (Apr 24)
- Re: [Bug]? -iR <num_hosts> on windows XP generates duplicate targets Brandon Enright (Apr 30)
- Re: [Bug]? -iR <num_hosts> on windows XP generates duplicate targets jah (Apr 30)
- Re: [Bug]? -iR <num_hosts> on windows XP generates duplicate targets David Fifield (Apr 30)
- Re: [Bug]? -iR <num_hosts> on windows XP generates duplicate targets Brandon Enright (Apr 30)
- Re: [Bug]? -iR <num_hosts> on windows XP generates duplicate targets Kris Katterjohn (May 01)
- Re: [Bug]? -iR <num_hosts> on windows XP generates duplicate targets Brandon Enright (May 01)
- Re: [Bug]? -iR <num_hosts> on windows XP generates duplicate targets Kris Katterjohn (May 01)
- Re: [Bug]? -iR <num_hosts> on windows XP generates duplicate targets doug (May 01)
- Re: [Bug]? -iR <num_hosts> on windows XP generates duplicate targets Brandon Enright (May 01)
- Re: [Bug]? -iR <num_hosts> on windows XP generates duplicate targets doug (May 01)
- Re: [Bug]? -iR <num_hosts> on windows XP generates duplicate targets Brandon Enright (Apr 23)
- Re: [Bug]? -iR <num_hosts> on windows XP generates duplicate targets Fyodor (Apr 23)
- Re: [Bug]? -iR <num_hosts> on windows XP generates duplicate targets doug (May 01)
- Re: [Bug]? -iR <num_hosts> on windows XP generates duplicate targets doug (May 01)
- Re: [Bug]? -iR <num_hosts> on windows XP generates duplicate targets doug (May 01)