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Re: Nmap release schedule/plan/rationale
From: Fyodor <fyodor () insecure org>
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:29:53 -0700
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:23:57PM -0500, Daniel Miller wrote:
Hey list, A big thanks to everyone who contributes and produces Nmap, my favorite security tool by far.
I'm glad you find Nmap useful!
My question: Does the Nmap project have a release plan, or a rationale for how to decide when to make a release?
Each release is handled on a case by case basis. Many factors are involved, including: o If there are known bugs/problems in current releases, we expedite a new release based on how severe those problems are. o As new features pile up in SVN, the urge gets stronger and stronger to put them out to a greater userbase with a new release. o If there are a lot of new features or other big changes, we generally do dev releases and give them a period to stabilize before making a stable release. o It depends on how busy we are. Like during SoC, we're doing so much code writing and review that it is hard to find time to also build and announce a new release. o It depends on what is coming soon. If there is a big change coming up, we might want to get in a release first to avoid waiting for the change to be fully integrated, tested, and stabilized. In other cases, we might delay a release until we can get a certain desired change in. o It depends on what else we're working on. Creating a release takes time which could otherwise be used for development, documentation, etc. Doing a release every other month takes less (total) time than monthly releases, in general. That may be a longer answer than you were looking for, but there it is :). We don't have any release dates planned right now, but my guess is that we'll have a dev release within a month and I'm pretty sure we'll have another stable release this year too (based on that new dev release).
I use the SVN repository for my own testing, but for work I have to use stable releases. Reading the changelog and this list makes me excited to use new features in my daily work, so I'd probably want more releases than is probably prudent.
Maybe you can get this policy changed? If we were talking about a web or email or DNS server, I can understand a big risk aversion to using an SVN snapshot or dev release. But what is the big risk of using an SVN version of Nmap, or at least a dev release?
In a very related note, I don't believe the project has a process for issuing "bugfix" releases, which I think could be helpful. Oftentimes bug reports are given and answered with, "That was fixed in rXXXXX." I'm not as familiar with subversion, but I know other VCSs like git have the ability to "cherry-pick" commits from other branches, which can be used to apply bugfixes to a stable branch for bugfix-only releases, without hindering new feature development. Has there been any discussion about a similar workflow for the Nmap project?
This is how our current Nmap 5.21 release was made. Our announcement tweet for it was: "Nmap 5.21 released with zero exciting new features! But this bugfix-only release should be extra stable." But a bug fix has to be pretty important for us to backport it into a new stable release. The branch in our SVN repository for this stable series is /nmap-exp/stable-5.2. In general, we recommend people run dev releases or even SVN. Maybe you can get your work policy changed? Having people use SVN (or at least the most recent dev release) helps the project too--it brings more testing to the new code so that it stabilizes faster. It also reduces the number of bug reports we receive for issues we've already fixed in newer releases or in svn. Cheers, Fyodor _______________________________________________ Sent through the nmap-dev mailing list http://cgi.insecure.org/mailman/listinfo/nmap-dev Archived at http://seclists.org/nmap-dev/
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- Nmap release schedule/plan/rationale Daniel Miller (Sep 22)
- Re: Nmap release schedule/plan/rationale Fyodor (Sep 22)
