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Re: Thoughts on Shellshock and beyond
From: Tim <tim-security () sentinelchicken org>
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 15:55:17 -0700
While it is too late for our hardware etc. perhaps strong type systems such as found in Haskell can help here? It is known to be very good at avoiding undefined or unexpected runtime behavior. Too late also for current languages to have this bolted on but if anyone wanted to write "secure" software I'd be looking at languages which provide some more guarantees. Too late for bash also, of course which I suppose points us back at the original problem.
I agree significant security benefit can be gained from these kinds of approaches. The trick is, convincing people to use such a language. Things like JavaScript and PHP are wildly popular because they are so easy to get started with. Minimal learning curve counts for a lot. That, and rapid development of new functionality is king in business. How can strongly typed functional language compete? tim
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- Re: Thoughts on Shellshock and beyond Florian Weimer (Oct 07)
- Re: Thoughts on Shellshock and beyond John Haxby (Oct 07)
- Re: Thoughts on Shellshock and beyond David A. Wheeler (Oct 07)
- Re: Thoughts on Shellshock and beyond Michal Zalewski (Oct 07)
- Re: Thoughts on Shellshock and beyond Stephane Chazelas (Oct 08)
- Re: Re: Thoughts on Shellshock and beyond Michal Zalewski (Oct 08)
- Re: Thoughts on Shellshock and beyond Tim (Oct 08)
- Re: Thoughts on Shellshock and beyond Michal Zalewski (Oct 08)
- Re: Thoughts on Shellshock and beyond David A. Wheeler (Oct 08)
- Re: Thoughts on Shellshock and beyond Tracy Reed (Oct 08)
- Re: Thoughts on Shellshock and beyond Tim (Oct 08)
- Re: Thoughts on Shellshock and beyond David A. Wheeler (Oct 08)
- Re: Thoughts on Shellshock and beyond Tracy Reed (Oct 09)
- Re: Thoughts on Shellshock and beyond David A. Wheeler (Oct 09)
- Re: Thoughts on Shellshock and beyond Pavel Labushev (Oct 09)
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- Re: Thoughts on Shellshock and beyond Florian Weimer (Oct 10)
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- Re: Thoughts on Shellshock and beyond Florian Weimer (Oct 12)
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- Re: Thoughts on Shellshock and beyond Pavel Labushev (Oct 14)
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