AW: Pentesting tool - Commercial

[<puppe () hisolutions com>]

Salve,


> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] Im
> Auftrag von Andre Gironda
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 4. März 2008 22:05
> An: pen-test
> Cc: Trygve Aasheim
> Betreff: Re: Pentesting tool - Commercial
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Trygve Aasheim <trygve () pogostick net>
> wrote:
> > This might be a bit hard for you to understand, I see that, but just

<snip>

> The deliverable shouldn't be awareness - it should be workable
> solutions.  Most of the time - these aren't technical at all.
> Strategy consulting is a good start to any project of this nature, and
> while the cost might be the same as a two-week assessment, it only
> takes up 1-2 days of a client's time, which really equates to much
> better savings for the client because a two-week assessment is a large
> investment for them.
>
> I would hit a few key areas:
> 1) Software acquisition.  How does the client acquire new software?
> Does it come with hardware out-of-the-box (e.g. installed on a
> router)?
> 2) Software update.  How does the client upgrade/update their software?
> 3) Software configuration.  How does the client configure their
> software?  How do they handle changes?
> 4) Software development.  Does the client write their own software?
> What processes do they use?
>
> I'm fairly impressed with the BITS Shared Assessments Program
> Standardized Information Gathering questionnaire as a starting point,
> which is also available in a SIG-Lite version.  Note that you don't
> have to be under SOX, ISO27k, or PCI "law" to follow COBIT, ISO 27002,
> or PCI-DSS.


I totally agree with you on this. A penetration test is good as a last touch to it-security, but in a not very security 
aware company, the real problems show up in a one hour interview more easily. Many customers buy the pentest, because 
they are afraid to talk about their organizational difficulties like patch-, user-, password-, service-management. 
That's where the exploits the hacker will find hail from and that's where they need to be fixed. Like when you pentest 
a company, deliver the report and while being treated to a tour of the premises, see that the server room has normal 
windows at level with the ground ...

We usually do an assessment based on http://www.bsi.de/english/gshb/index.htm , they have the only standard that covers 
physical, logical, organization security and it is very thorough, down to earth and with loads of detailed security 
measures to compare against.

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