RE: Pen Test and Sec Org

[Justin Townsend <justin.townsend () i-assure com>]

I work for many customers that are set up in a similar manner, and would heartily recommend it. The core concept is to 
have a separation of duties, with one party performing the engineering/operation, and the other party providing the 
security requirements and assessing the system to determine any gap between implementation and requirements. This helps 
to avoid a conflict of interest where an engineer is assessing their own work. This is a pretty standard setup in 
mature security organizations. As for standards (United States federal, at least,) I would check out the NIST Special  
Publications series, specifically "SP 800-100 Information Security Handbook: A Guide for Managers."  It's a solid 
overview of an entire security organization. It's tailored for US federal systems, but most of the theory applies to 
any larger organization.

All that said, I would put the pen tests under the "Information Security" group in your model.

Justin Townsend

I-Assure, LLC | Defense In Depth Solutions
justin.townsend () i-assure com
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From: listbounce () securityfocus com [listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of Soso Aboso [sosokkam () yahoo com]
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 2:54 AM
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Subject: Re: Pen Test and Sec Org

I am also very interseting on how to split the rsponsibilities

----- Original Message ----
From: Soso Aboso <sosokkam () yahoo com>
To: pen-test () securityfocus com
Sent: Monday, May 5, 2008 12:26:01 PM
Subject: Pen Test and Sec Org

Greetings,

In the organization I work for there are two security team, one with enterprise role “Information Security” and their 
mean focus on governance, awareness, and risk assessment. The second team is for IT “IT Security” and their mean focus 
on IT security projects and managing the security Devices.  The question I have, did any of you came through such 
organization structure, is it recommended, what standards support such security organization, who should be the owner 
of penetration tests in such organization?

Thanks you in advance for your feedback

Regards



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