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Re: To validate or not to validate: Client side validation
From: Dotzero <dotzero () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 19:24:55 -0400
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Robinson Delaugerre <rdelaugerre () sdninternational com> wrote:
Input validation has to be done *somewhere*, but if you do it client-side, you must do it again server side, because anyone can bypass your nice js interface. So doing it client-side is just a courtesy to the user, so that it does not take a back-and-forth between client and server to tell the user the email he provided doesn't contain an @. But as you mustn't rely on client validation, whether it's done or not is purely ux-based, and therefore irrelevant to security in my book. I'd be interested in opposed opinions though.. Rob'
You asked for opposed opinions, you got one <G>! Doing client input validation is not irrelevant to security. If I believe that I am implementing it correctly on the client then when I see something that violates that input validation I can reasonably assume that it is hostile and not accidental. Reducing noise is certainly a benefit. What is the risk of a false positive that impacts your normal users if you decide to send a reset or drop route on server side input validation failures if you are also doing the same input validation on the client vs not? Now I'm making a slight leap and assuming that the input validation is being impleneted correctly in both places. If not you are providing an opportunity for the malicious individual to examine this particular defense without ever hitting your server. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This list is sponsored by: Information Assurance Certification Review Board Prove to peers and potential employers without a doubt that you can actually do a proper penetration test. IACRB CPT and CEPT certs require a full practical examination in order to become certified. http://www.iacertification.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Current thread:
- To validate or not to validate: Client side validation pand0ra (Apr 20)
- RE: To validate or not to validate: Client side validation Paul Melson (Apr 22)
- Re: To validate or not to validate: Client side validation Alexander Klimov (Apr 22)
- Re: To validate or not to validate: Client side validation Todd Haverkos (Apr 22)
- Re: To validate or not to validate: Client side validation Joe Peters (Apr 26)
- Re: To validate or not to validate: Client side validation ㅤ ㅤRockey (Apr 27)
- Re: To validate or not to validate: Client side validation Patrick Cornelißen (Apr 26)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: To validate or not to validate: Client side validation Robinson Delaugerre (Apr 22)
- Re: To validate or not to validate: Client side validation Dotzero (Apr 26)
- Re: To validate or not to validate: Client side validation Alexander Klimov (Apr 27)
- Re: To validate or not to validate: Client side validation Dotzero (Apr 27)
- Re: To validate or not to validate: Client side validation Patrick Cornelißen (Apr 29)
- Re: To validate or not to validate: Client side validation Joe Peters (Apr 29)
- Re: To validate or not to validate: Client side validation Dotzero (Apr 26)
