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Re: Information Assessment Legality


From: Stephen <stephen () greyhat-security com>
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 10:05:35 +1030

Thanks Sebastien - that's quite helpful. I assumed option B would be the
one that causes the problems. Much appreciated :)

On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 01:03 +0200, Sébastien Hénarès wrote:
Hi, option A is legal as you are contracted to do the task, option B
on
the other hand is kind of problematic, for once, local laws can allow
you
to display the "whois" information, on the other aspects of this, it
should 
be noted that it could be assumed as "detective" duty, and you might
need
to pass an exam (in france for example, you cannot exercise the
profession
of finding informations like that without a license, it is tolerated
but in case
you do that on a massive scale to do data gathering, you should be
considering
a lawyer advice, preferably one that has a profile of being 

1) local to the country where you are going to target (U.S if in
states etc)
2) Is doing investigations legal aspects (litigious specialized should
have a 
good knowledge on the subject ironically)
3) None of the above if you redisplay already existing data (but i
think 
intellectual rights law sometimes tell you to ask permission for
sourcing)

I hope i did gave you enough material ;)

-- 
HSN


2010/10/11 Stephen <stephen () greyhat-security com>
        Hi all, we're considering offering 2 new services at
        Greyhat-Security,
        but wanted to know quite simply whether they'd be legal or
        not. I
        imagine they would be, but I'd appreciate if anyone could
        offer their
        views and experiences, or preferably, reference to the
        relevant laws.
        
        The services are:
        a) A personal information integrity check. The client pays us
        to conduct
        a review of all their personal information on the internet,
        where it's
        located, and the impact that could have on them or their
        business.
        b) A information review on a target. The client pays us and
        provides us
        with a starting point (a targets email, website, etc), and we
        find out
        as much as we can about said target using provided
        information, then
        provide the client with a report.
        
        Now, I would assume that option A is legal, as the person is
        requesting
        information on themselves, and we'd be using already publicly
        available
        information, however, I just wanted to confirm this, and
        whether a
        special license would be needed. Option B I would also assume
        would be
        legal, as services like Intelius do a similar thing (publicly
        available
        information on anyone at a cost), however, I wanted to know if
        there
        were special licenses needed, and whether we would be
        responsible if
        that information were used to commit a crime, or not? Thank
        you all for
        your input.
        
        --
        Stephen
        CEO of Greyhat-Security.com
        Education, Assessments, and Community
        Phone (Skype): +618 8121 7403


-- 
Stephen
CEO of Greyhat-Security.com
Education, Assessments, and Community
Phone (Skype): +618 8121 7403

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