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bumper sticker slogan for secure software
From: mouse at Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA (der Mouse)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 19:24:16 -0400 (EDT)
What is important is that some magic formal tool could say that some code in language "A", where bug of type "k" is possible, is not equivalent to the version in language "B", where type "k" bugs are impossible, ergo you have found a type "k" bug (in the absence of any other bug in that section of code...).
Well, no. You know that a bug exists. It could be in one version (you don't know which one), or it could be in the verifier. If you assume that the verifier is bug-free, and you assume that the language-A version is semantically correct, then you know that a bug exists in the language-B version. It might be of type k or it might be of some other type (possibly a type that can exist in language A, possibly not). And in any case, you have not found it; you have only demonstrated its existence. /~\ The ASCII der Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse at rodents.montreal.qc.ca / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B
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