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Economics of Software Vulnerabilities
From: Kevin.Wall at qwest.com (Wall, Kevin)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:16:08 -0500
James McGovern apparently wrote...
The uprising from customers may already be starting. It is called open source. The real question is what is the duty of others on this forum to make sure that newly created software doesn't suffer from the same problems as the commercial closed source stuff...
While I agree that the FOSS movement is an uprising, it:
1) it's being pushed by "customers" so much as IT developers
2) the "uprising" isn't so much as being an outcry against
security as it is against not being able to have the
desired features implemented in a manner desired.
At least that's how I see it.
With rare exceptions, in general, I do not find that the
open source community is that much more security consciousness
than those producing closed source. Certainly this seems true
if measured in terms of vulnerabilities and we measure "across
the board" (e.g., take a random sampling from SourceForge) and
not just our favorite security-related applications.
Where I _do_ see a remarkable difference is that the open source
community seems to be in general much faster in getting security
patches out once they are informed of a vulnerability. I suspect
that this has to do as much with the lack of bureaucracy in open
source projects as it does the fear of loss of reputation to their
open source colleagues.
However, this is just my gut feeling, so your gut feeling my differ.
(But my 'gut' is probably bigger than yours, so feeling prevails. ;-)
Does anyone have any hard evidence to back up this intuition. I
thought that Ross Anderson had done some research along those lines.
-kevin
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- Economics of Software Vulnerabilities McGovern, James F (HTSC, IT) (Mar 20)
- Economics of Software Vulnerabilities Wall, Kevin (Mar 20)
- Economics of Software Vulnerabilities McGovern, James F (HTSC, IT) (Mar 21)
- Economics of Software Vulnerabilities Steven M. Christey (Mar 21)
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- Economics of Software Vulnerabilities Crispin Cowan (Mar 19)
- Economics of Software Vulnerabilities McGovern, James F (HTSC, IT) (Mar 27)
