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Where Does Secure Coding Belong In the Curriculum?
From: goertzel_karen at bah.com (Goertzel, Karen [USA])
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:26:43 -0400
For consistency's sake, I hope you agree that if security is an intermediate-to-advanced concept in software
development, then all the other "-ilities" ("goodness" properties, if you will), such as quality, reliability,
usability, safety, etc. that go beyond "just get the bloody thing to work" are also intermediate-to-advanced concepts.
In other words, teach the "goodness" properties to developers only after they've inculcated all the bad habits they
possibly can, and then, when they are out in the marketplace and never again incentivised to actually unlearn those bad
habits, TRY desperately to change their minds using nothing but F.U.D. and various other psychological means of dubious
effectiveness.
Great strategy! Our hacker friends will love it.
Karen Mercedes Goertzel, CISSP
Associate
703.698.7454
goertzel_karen at bah.com
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Subject: Re: [SC-L] Where Does Secure Coding Belong In the Curriculum?
Two quick comments in catching up on the thread...
First, security in the software development concept is at least an
intermediate concept, if not advanced....
Current thread:
- Where Does Secure Coding Belong In the Curriculum?, (continued)
- Where Does Secure Coding Belong In the Curriculum? Wall, Kevin (Aug 26)
- Where Does Secure Coding Belong In the Curriculum? Goertzel, Karen [USA] (Aug 26)
- Where Does Secure Coding Belong In the Curriculum? Steven M. Christey (Aug 25)
- Where Does Secure Coding Belong In the Curriculum? Jim Manico (Aug 25)
- Where Does Secure Coding Belong In the Curriculum? Goertzel, Karen [USA] (Aug 26)
- Where Does Secure Coding Belong In the Curriculum? McGovern, James F (HTSC, IT) (Aug 27)
- Where Does Secure Coding Belong In the Curriculum? McGovern, James F (HTSC, IT) (Aug 26)
- Where Does Secure Coding Belong In the Curriculum? Andy Steingruebl (Aug 25)
- Where Does Secure Coding Belong In the Curriculum? Stephan Neuhaus (Aug 25)
- Where Does Secure Coding Belong In the Curriculum? Brad Andrews (Aug 25)
- Where Does Secure Coding Belong In the Curriculum? Goertzel, Karen [USA] (Aug 25)
- Where Does Secure Coding Belong In the Curriculum? Benjamin Tomhave (Aug 25)
- Where Does Secure Coding Belong In the Curriculum? Stephan Neuhaus (Aug 25)
- Inherently Secure Code? Brad Andrews (Aug 25)
- Where Does Secure Coding Belong In the Curriculum? Pete Werner (Aug 25)
- Where Does Secure Coding Belong In the Curriculum? Andy Murren (Aug 25)
- Where Does Secure Coding Belong In the Curriculum? Andy Steingruebl (Aug 25)
- Where Does Secure Coding Belong In the Curriculum? Goertzel, Karen [USA] (Aug 25)
- Where Does Secure Coding Belong In the Curriculum? Pravir Chandra (Aug 25)
- Where Does Secure Coding Belong In the Curriculum? Benjamin Tomhave (Aug 25)
- Where Does Secure Coding Belong In the Curriculum? Goertzel, Karen [USA] (Aug 26)
