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Re: Is there some problem w/ 3Com cards?


From: Rich Adamson <radamson () routers com>
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 09:17:25 -0600


A friend tells me 3Com cards have some problems - like dropping 
all malformed packets. I have bought a 3Com 3C900 XL because 
it is a PCI card and it has an AUI port. Anyone ever have any 
problems with this or cards like 3C509 and snort? 

Your friend is mostly correct. The majority of current NIC cards have
low-level logic built into the integrated circuits to "inspect"
incoming packets, and if that packet is corrupted, it will be dropped.
In most NIC cards, those dropped packets are not counted by any
sort of management logic, and promiscous mode has absolutely
nothing to do with whether you can "see" those damaged ethernet
packets or not.

What your question/friend doesn't mention is "what is a malformed
packet". The NIC card logic only knows what a layer-2 ethernet packet
is supposed to look like (eg, jk bits, header, data, trailer). If 
an arriving packet is damaged (generally the result of an ethernet
collision) and can't be decoded at layer-2, it is dropped. From
a snort perspective, you don't care.

These types of malformed/corrupted packets cannot be generated by
hackers (NIC cards don't have the internal logic to allow that).

There are a few NIC cards on the market that do include some logic
that allow "counting" of those packets, and options to pass the
damaged packet up to the NIC card driver code. If you go to 
www.sniffer.com and find NAI's list of supported NIC cards, you will 
see a small list that has those functions. You really don't care 
though because it only becomes important if you are trying to analyze 
the source of damaged / irregular packets with sniffers. Snort 
does not have any support whatsoever to do that.

Rich


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