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RE: Snort and SQL performance


From: Kevin Brown <Kevin.M.Brown () asu edu>
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 07:47:55 -0700

Well I found a solution to get around the INNER JOIN in the SQL calls to
mysql (since they take forever to do, even with just a weeks worth of
information).  The solution was to find the first CID that occurred for that
time period and the last CID to occur for that period.  If I have this
right, then the three tables I'm trying to get information from are linked
to the events table via the columns sid and cid in each one (tcphdr, udphdr,
icmphdr).  So I then do a count on each of the three tables and then only
have to do an inner join between event and signature to get the count of
portscan alerts that went off.

SELECT count(cid) from tcphdr where cid >= $first_event and cid <=
$last_event
select count(cid) from udphdr where cid >= $first_event and cid <=
$last_event
select count(cid) from icmphdr where cid >= $first_event and cid <=
$last_event
SELECT count(event.cid) from event inner join signature on signature.sig_id
= event.signature where signature.sig_name like 'spp_portscan%' AND
event.timestamp < '$today' AND event.timestamp >= DATE_SUB('$today',
INTERVAL 7 DAY)

These queries go very fast (takes less than a minute for all 4, even with
100,000 records for the week).

-----Original Message-----
From: Fraser Hugh [mailto:hugh_fraser () dofasco ca]
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 12:13
To: 'Kevin Brown'; 'snort-users () lists sourceforge net'
Subject: RE: [Snort-users] Snort and SQL performance


Postgres's transaction overhead seems to make a considerable 
difference to
ACID, which issues a lot of queries building its pages. The 
DB itself isn't
slow... I've written some perl scripts to generate stats that 
quickly churn
through endless Code Red alerts, but they're based upon 
queries written to
use the DB efficiently, something that's more difficult to do 
from a generic
user query web page. Even with fsync turned off, deleting 
40000 Code Red
alerts through ACID is painful, but very quick in Perl. I suspect some
optimization in ACID would bring Postgres and MySQL closer  
in performance.

In my environment, I wanted to merge Snort and ACID with DCL 
(a free trouble
ticket tracking system) to manage the audit trail that we 
generate when
there's a security alert. A bit of plpgsql to add some 
triggers to the snort
database , a couple of tables to identify alerts we're interested in
tracking, and I've extended Snort to cut trouble tickets in 
DCL without
actually changing Snort or any rules. Eventually, I'll get around to a
custom output plugin, but triggers in Postgres seemed much simpler. My
solution for the performance issue has been to use scheduled 
perl scripts to
do daily pruning of old events to keep the size down.

-----Original Message-----
From:       Kevin Brown [SMTP:Kevin.M.Brown () asu edu]
Sent:       Wednesday, September 05, 2001 1:01 PM
To: 'snort-users () lists sourceforge net'
Subject:    [Snort-users] Snort and SQL performance

Currently running Version 1.8.1-RELEASE (Build 74) on a 
Netra T1 AC200
(500MHz Sparc IIe, 1GB RAM, 2x 18GB 10k RPM SCSI drives) and have it
logging
to a remote SQL database, MySQL 3.23.40 running on a Quad 
PII450 Xeon, 2GB
RAM, 40GB Hard drive space devoted to the database.  I have 
noticed that
as
the database gets larger in size, the performance of snort 
begins to slip.
During the summer when few to no students were present, 
snort was clocking
along at 70% of the CPU.  The semester has begun and 
network usage has
risen, yet snort has slowly gone down from 70% to 45%.  The 
only thing
that
has changed on the network is that the SQL Database has grown from 0
records
on 8-13-01 to 2,632,460 records as of an hour and a half 
ago, listening on
a
total of 200Mb of bandwidth to various ISPs that service 
this campus.  I
have also tried this with PostgreSQL, but while the insert 
performance may
have been better the ACID performance for viewing the data 
was an order of
magnitude, or more, worse (e.g. 100s for postgres vs. 10s 
for mysql).

To me this suggests that there may still be some tuning 
options, either in
mysql or in the spo_database plugin to improve the speed of 
the inserts to
see if that keeps snort chugging along happily.

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