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Re: Stopping outbound Kazaa


From: "Travis S." <security () starfieldsw com>
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 14:40:06 -0500

Yes, I've looked at both of the rules mentioned.  The problem is that while the old version of Kazaa uses port 1214, 
the newer versions use dynamic port allocations for transfers, even port 80.  Thanks for the suggestion though.

--Travis

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: twig les <twigles () yahoo com>
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:37:07 -0800 (PST)

There are 2 kazaa rules that I know of offhand, sid:1383 and
sid:1699.  Unfortunately these require dst port 1214 so they can
be avoided.  Without knowing anything about your infrastructure
or corporate environment it's hard to find a solution, although
to be honest if this is a work environment and you're out of
bandwidth I'd simply kill all Kazaa, up or down.  Especially
since it's normally the "You've Got Mail" crowd downloading
things and not virus-scanning them before execution.  Not to
mention the heinous MPAA/RIAA(TM ... probably) plot to punish
copyright thieves :).

The only way I can think of to stop Kazaa is thru bandwidth
monitoring and policy.  Send out a new policy based on
filesharing being a no-no and then watch the bandwidth
consumption and figure who has got a suspicious stream of
traffic (30-60kps for 16 hours straight coming from a desktop in
finance to the internet).  QoS on the router(s) may help but I
don't know your environment.  You could simply kick the end-user
traffic to a lower priority.

So in essence, no, I haven't figured out a clever way to do this
with free stuff.  But I'm feeling quite chatty today so I hope
this helps.


--- "Travis S." <security () starfieldsw com> wrote:
On a large 1 gbps full-duplex internet pipe, I want to prevent
outside users from downloading files on Kazaa, gnutella, etc
from our network.  On the other hand, I don't want to stop our
users from downloading these files from the outside.

Basically the idea is to manage the uncontrolled outbound
stream so we have spare - right now it's pegged 100% usage.

Has anybody figured out clever ways to accomplish this using
snort or any other package?  Obviously I would prefer a free
solution, so it would be great if Snort could do this.

--Travis


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