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Asymmetric routing and IDS correlation ?
From: Glenn Forbes Fleming Larratt <glratt () io com>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 16:12:22 -0600 (CST)
Our border is configured with two loadshared connection between
border and core routers, using OSPF loadsharing in its default
(per-packet) mode of operation. Two redundant snort hosts each
have a dedicated, unaddresses, promiscuous-mode tap on each of
the two links.
This creates the nontrivial problem that any attempt to use
stateful features of Snort (or any other IDS) may fail because
of asymmetric routing, thus:
border
| | +---+
+--U---------+ + snorthost (only one of two shown)
| +---------+ +
| | +---+
core
If, for the sake of argument, a TCP conversation, occurs:
Syn
Syn/Ack
Ack
{banner}
{query1}
{response1}
{query2}
{response}
Fin
Ack
Fin
Ack
, and the routing and loadsharing is such that inbound traffic takes
the left-hand link and outbound the right-hand, then neither of the
two instances of snort on the snorthost will get enough information
to do even minimal correlations, let alone use "flow" and "session"
keywords.
We know we could make the two links preferred/backup, rather than
equal-value loadshare, but that throws away half our bandwidth.
Question 1: Is there any way for snort to be smart enough to have
one instance looking at both interfaces, or to share state between
two instances?
Question 2: [sort of OT for this list] is there a standards-based way
to make two-way loadsharing "per-conversation", as it were, to obviate
this issue?
Any assistance gratefully received.
thx,-g
--
Glenn Forbes Fleming Larratt The Lab Ratt (not briggs :-)
glratt () io com http://www.io.com/~glratt
There are imaginary bugs to chase in heaven.
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- Asymmetric routing and IDS correlation ? Glenn Forbes Fleming Larratt (Mar 23)
- Re: Asymmetric routing and IDS correlation ? Rich Adamson (Mar 23)
- Re: Asymmetric routing and IDS correlation ? Josh Berry (Mar 23)
- Re: Asymmetric routing and IDS correlation ? Jason Haar (Mar 23)
- Re: Asymmetric routing and IDS correlation ? Dirk Geschke (Mar 24)
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