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Re: RE: Concepts: Security and Obscurity
From: levinson_k () securityadmin info
Date: 5 Apr 2007 19:33:23 -0000
I disagree that security by obscurity is usually expensive, and that it is ineffective. Changing a TCP port number, changing an application server banner, etc. takes a minute, and does not necessarily add any administrative cost. Some obscurity countermeasures cost less than not using obscurity, such as not posting your sensitive internal network design documents to the Internet. Firewalls and proxy servers regularly hide internal NAT IP address schema by default, no extra cost. When an OS like Windows accidentally discloses this kind of information, it's considered a security vulnerability and gets fixed in a security patch. However, quantitative risk assessment like this is specific to each environment, and neither of us can really make a blanket statement about obscurity being univerally bad or good that applies to all situations. kind regards, Karl Levinson http://securityadmin.info
Security by Obscurity is an ineffective control. The gains are minimal in economic terms. The cost however is more than the pure cash/money costs. The additional losses to productivity and added difficultly in maintaining secrecy does not provide the required level of gains to offset the costs and thus creates a dead-weight loss in economic terms.
Current thread:
- RE: Concepts: Security and Obscurity, (continued)
- RE: Concepts: Security and Obscurity Mark Sutton (Apr 09)
- RE: Concepts: Security and Obscurity Craig Wright (Apr 05)
- RE: Concepts: Security and Obscurity Mandelcorn, Seymour (Apr 09)
- RE: Concepts: Security and Obscurity Daniel Miessler (Apr 05)
- Re: Concepts: Security and Obscurity krymson (Apr 05)
- RE: Concepts: Security and Obscurity Ken Kousky (Apr 09)
- RE: Concepts: Security and Obscurity John Rodriguez (Apr 09)
- RE: Concepts: Security and Obscurity Ken Kousky (Apr 10)
- RE: Concepts: Security and Obscurity Ken Kousky (Apr 09)
- Re: Concepts: Security and Obscurity Pranay Kanwar (Apr 05)
- Re: Re: Concepts: Security and Obscurity levinson_k (Apr 09)
- Re: RE: Concepts: Security and Obscurity levinson_k (Apr 09)
- RE: Concepts: Security and Obscurity krymson (Apr 10)
- Re: Concepts: Security and Obscurity Joe Yong (Apr 11)
- RE: Concepts: Security and Obscurity Young, Randy (Apr 11)
- RE: Concepts: Security and Obscurity Ken Kousky (Apr 11)
- Re: Concepts: Security and Obscurity Joe Yong (Apr 11)
- Re: Concepts: Security and Obscurity Daniel Miessler (Apr 11)
- Re: Concepts: Security and Obscurity Daniel Miessler (Apr 11)
