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Re: OT: Software patent FUD?
From: "R. J. Cronk" <rjc06c () GMAIL COM>
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 20:20:57 -0500
A patent owner can prevent anyone from making, *using *or selling an invention that contravenes the patent. For example, lets say one had a patent on a widget building machine. Company A sells a widget building machine to Company B to make widgets. The patent owner could prevent Company A from making the widget building machines and from selling the machines. He could also prevent Company B from using the widget building machines. However, he couldn't prevent Company B from selling widgets which they made not using the widget building machine (maybe the alternative is doing it by hand). As an example, back in 2004, Acacia Research tried to sue websites and cable providers using technology they said infringed their streaming media patents. They didn't sue the companies providing the technology (Real Media, Microsoft, Apple) but they went after companies using the technology purchased from those providers. There strategy hinged on the fact that the smaller users didn't have the resources to fight a major patent battle and would license the patents giving Acacia a war chest with which to eventually sue the larger companies. -- *R. Jason Cronk,* *Esq., CIPP* (828) 4RJCESQ rjc () privacymaverick com blog.privacymaverick.com On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Steve Bohrer <skbohrer () simons-rock edu>wrote:
I expect most of us are not lawyers, and I'm not either, but I just wanted to check on a common sense level (Not, of course, that common sense is necessarily relevant to legal action.) As far as software patents go, my basic thought is that there is a big difference between being a consumer of infringing software, vs. being a developer of the infringing software. I'd always assumed that buying a commercial product meant you did not have any particular responsibility for any potential patent infringement problems of the product. For example, if I buy a GM car, and then someone sues GM for infringing a patent, I'm pretty sure they can't come after me and sue me as a patent infringer just because I was driving my car. I don't, as far as I know, need any special language in my car-buying-contract to protect me from any patent sins that GM might have committed. If someone does successfully sue GM over a patent issue about my car, and GM can't settle, would I then need to stop using the infringing car? That could be a hassle, but is still much a much lesser problem than being sued as an infringer. Even if it came to loss of the car, seems like GM would owe me a refund, since they'd sold me a car that turned out to not be usable. Steve Bohrer Network Admin Bard College at Simon's Rock 413-528-7645
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