Re: FW: Michael - Patent Infringement Notice

[Ken Connelly <Ken.Connelly () UNI EDU>]

There are guidelines, and EDUCAUSE generally does a good job of helping
to enforce them.  That said, the list is public and archived/available
on the web.  Even if vendors and trolls aren't list members, they can
still see what's been said.  Even if that's removed or restricted to
EDUCAUSE/list members only, it's been available and you have to presume
that there are copies other than the one that EDUCAUSE maintains.

I think that Dennis has made a huge mistake here, but I find that
vendors tend to think differently than I do.

- ken

Hanson, Mike wrote:
> Valerie and Rodney,
>
> Why are non .edu people allowed to post on this forum and threaten
> legal action? 
>
> What is the value of this forum if it is not the free exchange of
> information between .edu's?
>
> Members are asking for and seeking advice on particular products and
> implementations. Now we have to worry about whether or not a
> particular vendor is listening and will seek legal recourse based on
> an opinion expressed?
>
>
> Mike Hanson
> Network Security Manager
> The College of St. Scholastica
> Duluth, MN 55811
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> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:42 AM, SCHALIP, MICHAEL <mschalip () cnm edu
> <mailto:mschalip () cnm edu>> wrote:
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>     Hey Educause…..any thoughts here? 
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>      
>
>     We come on this discussion group for the free exchange of ideas –
>     and THIS is allowed!?
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>      
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>     Wow…..
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>     *From:* Dennis Meharchand [mailto:dennis () valtx com
>     <mailto:dennis () valtx com>]
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, December 07, 2011 1:25 PM
>     *To:* SCHALIP, MICHAEL
>     *Subject:* RE: Michael - Patent Infringement Notice
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>      
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>     Michael,
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>      
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>     I think your response was bad form.
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>     I am instructing my lawyers to file the first patent infringement
>     lawsuit against CNM.
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>     Let’s see how much of a bad publicity stunt this is.
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>     Dennis Meharchand
>
>     CEO, Valt.X Technologies Inc.
>
>     Cell: 416-618-4622 <tel:416-618-4622>
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>     Email: dennis () valtx com <mailto:dennis () valtx com>
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>     Web: www.valtx.com <http://www.valtx.com>
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>     *From:* The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv
>     [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
>     <mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>] *On Behalf Of *SCHALIP,
>     MICHAEL
>     *Sent:* December 7, 2011 9:34 AM
>     *To:* SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
>     <mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>
>     *Subject:* [Possible Spam] Re: [SECURITY] Deepfreeze on vm's?
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>      
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>     Bad form…..scare tactics…..bad publicity stunt…..how do we get the
>     Educause moderator involved??
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>      
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>     *From:* The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv
>     [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
>     <mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>] *On Behalf Of *Walter Moore
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, December 07, 2011 6:54 AM
>     *To:* SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
>     <mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>
>     *Subject:* Re: [SECURITY] Deepfreeze on vm's?
>
>      
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>     You had it right in your first paragraph. Whatever the merits of
>     your patent case (and you will have to forgive my skepticism) you
>     have no business interjecting it into this discussion.
>
>      
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>     On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Dennis Meharchand
>     <dennis () valtx com <mailto:dennis () valtx com>> wrote:
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>     This is likely one of those situations where I should just
>     continue to shut my mouth until we are already to act but here goes:
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>     My company Valt.X Technologies owns the patents in this area and
>     we intend to enforce our patents in 2012.
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>     Here’s my advice – if you are using Deep Freeze or any VDI -
>     include in your contract that they cover you for Patent Infringement.
>
>      
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>     Valt.X has just won its first public tender in Canada – we own
>     this area and intend to enforce our intellectual property rights.
>
>      
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>     Our position is that Deep Freeze is a blatant copy of Valt.X
>     issued patents and that VDI also infringes our patents – we intend
>     to sue all infringers.
>
>      
>
>     Dennis Meharchand
>
>     CEO, Valt.X Technologies Inc.
>
>     Cell: 416-618-4622 <tel:416-618-4622>
>
>     Email: dennis () valtx com <mailto:dennis () valtx com>
>
>     Web: www.valtx.com <http://www.valtx.com>
>
>      
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>     *From:* The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv
>     [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
>     <mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>] *On Behalf Of *Brandon Payne
>     *Sent:* December 6, 2011 6:01 PM
>     *To:* SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
>     <mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>
>     *Subject:* [SECURITY] Deepfreeze on vm's?
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>      
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>     We are looking into VDI for all our computer labs. VMware View to
>     be exact with WYSE P20 Zero Clients. Roughly about 300 or more
>     vm's for all the labs.
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>      
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>     From a virtual standpoint - do you see the need for Faronics
>     Deepfreeze on all computer lab vm's? Currently we are using
>     Deepfreeze on our desktops in all labs and has worked out great.
>     For this situation, I'm not interested in the security
>     implications of why Deepfreeze is bad, just if its recommended in
>     a virtual environment.  
>
>      
>
>     What are you doing in situations if a user profile gets hosed up
>     with malware in this vm enviroment?
>
>
>     -- 
>     Brandon Payne
>     Technical Support Specialist
>     Information Services
>     Sauk Valley Community College
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- Ken
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Ken Connelly             Associate Director, Security and Systems
ITS Network Services                  University of Northern Iowa
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