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Security Industry Under Scrutiny #4
From: ratel <ratel () mailvault com>
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 15:35:46 -0500 (EST)
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Interesting point - the motives of the criminal. The motives are part
of
the key to this problem, the other part is effectiviness. The essence
is -
for a criminal - is making crime pay, like Perry managed, and get away
with
it, where Perry flunked.
The main problem with the rest of your post is that you're trying to equate the psychology of hacking with the psychology of crime when a far more appropriate analogy is the PSYCHOLOGY OF ESPIONAGE. A substantial overlap with the common criminal to be sure, but an entirely different kind of beast. I like to think so, anyway. Did you know that people prone to espionage overwhelmingly share an unusual combination of three personality disorders: narcissistic, antisocial and paranoid. Narcissistic, antisocial and paranoid? Imagine that! Sound like anybody you know in the security business, hmmm? heh. There's a huge body of literature out there on this you can find on your own, if it interests you, knock yourself out: you might be surprised at what you come up with. Here's a start--a lot of great information which also has the added benefit of being unintentionally funny as hell... http://www.dss.mil/nf/adr/. As far as I'm concerned, the only difference between sophisticated hackers and high-impact spies is a matter of the environment they find themselves in. Likewise, script kiddie carders correspond to dumb grunts caught selling secrets to make a fast buck. Etc. etc. draw your own parallels. Is it any coincidence that that Robert Hanssen was planning on taking a job in the computer security industry? I think not. Ratel. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: MailVault 2.2 from Laissez Faire City http://www.mailvault.com iQA/AwUAPi8AXOYNtyh3zif9EQIpnQCfZ61wTbxSoW2LSTYLrJuXy2RmdCAAoKU+ T7VqUwAVLKw6ySON1Apcya1y =h1DV -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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