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Re: Fw: Red Hat Linux end-of-life update and tr ansition planning


From: Michael Gale <michael () bluesuperman com>
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 00:11:03 -0700

Hello Duncan,

        I completely agree with the comment about the shop -- it should not matter what distro as long as they are all 
working the same way.

I have to disagree with rpms thought -- I like slack's package management tool. pkgtool which has installpkg, removepkg 
and upgradepkg.

I have run a variety of Unix systems, most of them for real time voice recording. I used to work for Bell Canade and 
looked after there 25+ unix systems. I did not set them up -- I was just hired to look after them and maintain them.

I was just using hotmail as an example -- since there servers should be handling a large load.

Anyways -- thanks for the reply - time for my nappy ;)

Michael.


On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:29:25 +1000
Duncan Lindley <duncan.lindley () virginblue com au> wrote:

I have worked in BIG SHOPS thank you very much and you know what. BIG
SHOPS - don't use Red Hat.

I've worked in a few, they all ran/run RedHat. Occasioanlly some debian user
would try to preach it to us, but then if your only willing to run
<whatever> distro you certainly won't be welcomed on my team, I'm happy to
work in a slackware or debian shop, as long as were all working the same
way.

The reason slackware is a better server class distro then RH is because of
slackware's simplicity. 

Mabye if there was a best. Slackwares ok, I'm really looking forward to
fedora.. More contributed stuff.. Power to the people! I'm ahppy to manage
my own packages, rpm is easy as.

I have played with the Red Hat install and have worked on automating it --
ya -- the RH auto install feature is to very restrictive. With slack -- it
is so much easier to write custom install scripts.

Vim /root/anaconda-ks.cfg ... theres your auto install script from your
anaconda install. Google for kickstart.

Try going from RH 6 to RH 9 -- all of a sudden that directory where you
config files were -- ya is not there any more.

I ran upgrades from 6.1 to the 9 beta, they all worked ok. If your trusting
your servers to just work after you just insert a cd I think you better get
an admin that pays attention.

Oh -- did I mention that slackware is the most Unix like distro available.
There is a reason that hotmail is > running on FreeBSD and NOT Red Hat 

HPUX and Solaris share a great deal more similarities to RedHat than
Slackware. Do you even run any commercial unix servers? How many other up to
date commercial unicies that are popular run BSD init scripts? I wouldn't
call Hotmail a varied and diverse enterprise with multiple arch's either.

I think you need to change your nappy.. Its all linux. Theres no need to pat
yourself on the back, or patronise those that don't choose the same distro.
RPM is fantastic for package management, you can even install it on
slack/frisbee/solaris :) 

-Dunc


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