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Re: Industry calls on Microsoft to scrap Patch Tuesday for Critical flaws
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 21:23:08 -0500
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 22:12:23 GMT, n3td3v said:
You Microsoft must officially agree that all flaws marked as "Critical" must have a patch within 7 to 14 days of public disclosure.
OK... Nice try. Too bad you didn't add a requirement that the patch actually be *correct*. Also, you're totally overlooking the fact that *sometimes*, fixing a problem requires some major re-architecting - for instance, if an API has to be changed, then *every* caller has to be updated, and quite possibly re-designed, and the changes have an annoying tendency to ripple outward (if subroutine A has a 7th parameter added, then everybody who calls A has to be updated. And it's likely that you'll find routines B, C, and D that have no *idea* what the correct value of the parameter should be, because they don't have access to the data - so now callers of B, C, and D have to pass another parameter that gets passed to A). Any company that will commit to a "must" on this one is nuts. It's a good target, but making it mandatory is just asking companies to ship a half-baked patch that seems to fix the PoC rather than the underlying design flaw. And going back and reviewing the patch history on IE is instructive - more than once, Microsoft has released a patch for a known Javascript flaw, only to find out within a week that a very slight change would make the exploit work again. Is that *really* what you want? It's certainly not what *I* want. Waiting another 3-4 days past your arbitrary 14-day limit for a *good* patch is certainly preferable for those of us who actually have to deal with this stuff for a living, rather than hide out on a Yahoo group.
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