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RE: RE: IDS taps in a switched network
From: dnewman () networktest com (David Newman)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:07:03 -0400
Someone wrote:Um, the spy port is just ONE port. So what happens when I define a VLAN with, say, 24 ports and redirect all that traffic to one spyport? All thosepackets ain't gonna fit through that one little narrow doorway. ;-)That all depends on the aggregate bandwidth of the switch itself. Lets also remember that a 2924 switch has a 3.2 GB backplane.
The backplane rate is irrelevant. If the spy port operates at, say, 100 Mbit/s, then only 100 megabits per second can be passed to a monitor. Any number of monitored ports greater than 1 will create an overload; as we all know a system is only as fast as its slowest component, and in this case that's the spy port. Another thing: I haven't worked with Cisco VLANs in a while and I forget whether they set up virtual or real collision domains. If the former (which I suspect), the above comments apply. If the latter, then the speed of the spy port isn't an issue since the entire VLAN offers an *aggregate* data rate of 10 or 100 Mbit/s. But congratulations to the buyer of that approach--he/she has just purchased a $20,000 (?) hub.
To echo Rons post, the Shomiti Tap solution is probably the best way to monitor traffic in a large enterprise. It is best used in conjunction with a 2900 switch.
In my experience the 5500s, 6000s, and 85X0s are less prone to frame loss than the 29XX line (I've run those switches at line rate on all ports in a full-mesh pattern for several minutes without frame loss, but I've seen considerable loss when running the same test on a 2926). I agree that the 12-Tap is an effective way to monitor 12 ports at a time. But many enterprise switches (and virtually all boxes for ISPs and carriers) have many more than 12 ports. In my opinion it's better to have hardware-based monitoring built right into the switch. David Newman
Current thread:
- Re: Comparison of several IDS Vin McLellan (Oct 26)
- Re: Comparison of several IDS Herve DEBAR (Oct 27)
- IDS taps in a switched network mark.gandy () dowcorning com (Oct 27)
- Re: IDS taps in a switched network Jackie Chan (Oct 27)
- RE: IDS taps in a switched network David Newman (Oct 28)
- Re: RE: IDS taps in a switched network R. Brockway (Oct 29)
- RE: RE: IDS taps in a switched network David Newman (Oct 29)
- RE: RE: IDS taps in a switched network Jackie Chan (Oct 30)
- RE: RE: IDS taps in a switched network David Newman (Oct 30)
- RE: RE: IDS taps in a switched network (The right tools for the job) Ron Gula (Oct 31)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: Comparison of several IDS pcafarchio () icsa net (Oct 26)
