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Re: legality of sacrificial host to prosecute
From: jnduncan () cisco com (Jim Duncan)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 20:21:48 -0400
JohnNicholson () aol com writes:
For those of you who think this is flogging a dead horse, I apologize for the bandwidth. However, this seems to be an issue about which there is a great deal of confusion, so it seems worthwhile to try and clear it up.
_Black's Law Dictionary_ sixth edition, 1990, says this on page 532:
Entrapment. The act of officers or agents of the government in
inducing a person to commit a crime not contemplated by him for the
purpose of instituting a criminal prosecution against him. According
to the generally accepted view, a law enforcement official, or an
undercover agent acting in cooperation with such an official,
perpetrates an entrapment when, for the purpose of obtaining evidence
of a crime, he originates the idea of the crime and then induces
another person to engage in conduct constituting such a crime when the
other person is not otherwise disposed to do so. Sorrells v. U.S.,
287 U.S. 435, 53 S.Ct. 210, 77 L.Ed. 413; Sherman v. U.S., 356 U.S.
369, 78 S.Ct. 819, 2 L.Ed.2d 848.
A public law enforcement official or a person acting in cooperation
with such an official perpetrates an entrapment if for the purpose of
obtaining evidence of the commission of an offense, he induces or
encourages another person to engage in conduct constituting such
offense by either: (a) making knowingly false representations designed
to induce the belief that such conduct is not prohibited; or (b)
employing methods of persuasion or inducement which create a
substantial risk that such an offense will be committed by persons
other than those who are read to commit it. Model Penal Code, section
2.13. See also Predisposition.
On page 1177:
Predisposition. For purposes of entrapment defense, may be defined as
defendant's inclination to engage in illegal activity for which he has
been charged, i.e., that he is ready and willing to commit the crime.
It focuses on defendant's state of mind before government agents
suggest that he commit crime. U.S. v. Ortiz, C.A.Utah, 804 F.2d 1161,
1165. See also Premeditation.
And on page 1180:
Premeditation. The act of meditating in advance; deliberation upon a
contemplated act; plotting or contriving; a design formed to do
something before it is done. A prior determination to do an act, but
such determination need not exist for any particular period before it
is carried into effect. Thought of beforehand for any length of time,
however short. State v. Marston, Mo., 479 S.W.2d 481, 484.
And that's enough. Executive summary: If the person breaking in to the
honeypot was already breaking in to the system anyhow, then it's *not*
entrapment. If the honeypot somehow induced the person to break the law
*and* the honeypot was set up or configured as such at the behest of a law
enforcement official (or an agent acting on behalf of a law enforcement
official) then it *might* be entrapment. But this implies the sysadmins
set up the honeypot for the purposes of catching and prosecuting
interlopers, when in reality most honeypots are set up to occupy the time
of any interlopers once they have broken into the system. And, as I said
above, if they're breaking in anyhow, then it can't be entrapment.
Hope this helps.
By the way, I'm _not_ a lawyer, and Rik Farrow and I make this abundantly
clear in the incident handling class we teach for the USENIX Association.
Jim
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