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Re: R: Re: Korea (was RE: ?)


From: jpr5 () BOS BINDVIEW COM (Jordan Ritter)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 19:08:44 -0500


On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, spookah . wrote:

# If you were to leave your front door open in a bad neighborhood on
# accident when you went to the store, and someone walked into your
# house and locked and closed the door for you.  Would you consider them
# a criminal?  Would you consider yourself violated?  Or would you
# consider yourself a lucky guy that someone with good intentions
# noticed first?
#
# If my box was cracked and someone with good intentions noticed for me
# and secured my box, I would thank them and then continue on my own
# lookin further into the problem.  You can say that guy is a criminal
# for walkin in your house when you left the door open, but personnaly,
# I would call him a nice guy.

The proverbial ball is in my court.  Would I be grateful in this
situation?  Yes.  Would I press charges for doing a nice thing?  Of course
not.  But c'mon, a nice guy breaks into my box just to fix it?  I'm more
likely to fall off the toilet while taking a dump.

Besides that, though, this discussion really revolves around the legality
of accessing and/or copying information made available in ignorance (or
otherwise, maybe).  Breaking down my door to get in is breaking and
entering, but that isn't really what we're talking about.  Walking into my
apartment without my permission is still a crime -- trespassing,
regardless of whether I will actually pursue legal recourse or not.

Do the same tenants apply to the internet realm?  Well now, that's a real
debate.

Jordan Ritter
RAZOR Security
BindView Corporation


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