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Re: Strange servicepack.exe file (not service.exe) found.


From: Doug Foster <fosterd () airshow net>
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:43:42 -0500

David Gillett wrote:

Yep.  However, I believe that the argument amongst
Windows admins will continue to favor rebuilding will
continue for the time being...however unfortunate that
may be.

 Paradoxically, I find many Linux admins perversely prone
to trying to do minimal cleanup to a box that is found to
be compromised, without much effort to discover what *else* has been done to the box in its "compromised, but not yet
detected" state, a period for which records such as local
logs cannot be trusted.  (Did the discovered compromise
throw open the doors to additional intrusions not yet noticed?
Was it, in fact, enabled by some prior unnoticed compromise?)

I don't think the issue relates to the OS as much as the lack of forensics. How can new vulnerabilities, zero-day vulnerabilities, be discovered if boxes thought to be compromised are not investigated, but are merely wiped and rebuilt? And if the a zero day vulnerability is userd but not found out, the corrective cycle of patch/work-around cannot commence. And if that cycle does not complete, all users of the same software remain vulnerable. The trend towards wiping and rebuilding will save money in the short term for whoever's machine as compromised, but overall it will cost us all more. We all will suffer more intrusions, with costs piling up for machine rebuilds, customer notifications, lost sales, and damaged careers.

- Doug


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