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Re: Strange servicepack.exe file (not service.exe) found.
From: Doug Foster <fosterd () airshow net>
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:43:42 -0500
David Gillett wrote:
I don't think the issue relates to the OS as much as the lack of forensics. How can new vulnerabilities, zero-day vulnerabilities, be discovered if boxes thought to be compromised are not investigated, but are merely wiped and rebuilt? And if the a zero day vulnerability is userd but not found out, the corrective cycle of patch/work-around cannot commence. And if that cycle does not complete, all users of the same software remain vulnerable. The trend towards wiping and rebuilding will save money in the short term for whoever's machine as compromised, but overall it will cost us all more. We all will suffer more intrusions, with costs piling up for machine rebuilds, customer notifications, lost sales, and damaged careers.Yep. However, I believe that the argument amongst Windows admins will continue to favor rebuilding will continue for the time being...however unfortunate that may be.Paradoxically, I find many Linux admins perversely prone to trying to do minimal cleanup to a box that is found tobe compromised, without much effort to discover what *else* has been done to the box in its "compromised, but not yetdetected" state, a period for which records such as local logs cannot be trusted. (Did the discovered compromise throw open the doors to additional intrusions not yet noticed? Was it, in fact, enabled by some prior unnoticed compromise?)
- Doug --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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- Re: Strange servicepack.exe file (not service.exe) found. Eric Chien (Dec 17)
- RE: Strange servicepack.exe file (not service.exe) found. James C Slora Jr (Dec 17)
- RE: Strange servicepack.exe file (not service.exe) found. John Ives (Dec 17)
- RE: Strange servicepack.exe file (not service.exe) found. Rob Shein (Dec 18)
- RE: Strange servicepack.exe file (not service.exe) found. John Ives (Dec 18)
- RE: Strange servicepack.exe file (not service.exe) found. James C Slora Jr (Dec 17)
- RE: Strange servicepack.exe file (not service.exe) found. Harlan Carvey (Dec 17)
- RE: Strange servicepack.exe file (not service.exe) found. James C Slora Jr (Dec 17)
- RE: Strange servicepack.exe file (not service.exe) found. Harlan Carvey (Dec 18)
- RE: Strange servicepack.exe file (not service.exe) found. David Gillett (Dec 18)
- Re: Strange servicepack.exe file (not service.exe) found. Doug Foster (Dec 19)
- Re: Strange servicepack.exe file (not service.exe) found. dreamwvr () dreamwvr com (Dec 19)
- Administrivia: Dead Thread - Strange servicepack.exe file (not service.exe) found. Dan Hanson (Dec 19)
- RE: Strange servicepack.exe file (not service.exe) found. Lucretia (Dec 19)
