Re: The large ISPs and Peering

[Curtis Maurand <curtis () lamere net>]

Anything the Telco's do is not good for the smaller ISP.  Nothing any of
the RBOC's have done have been good for the small ISP.  In fact, most of
them are trying to stomp out the small ISP.

Curits

On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Leo Bicknell wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 07:50:04PM -0700, Peering Resistance wrote:
> > 1) What are the selected sites?
>
> Doesn't matter.
>
> > 2) How do the rest of us play?
>
> You don't, unless they invite you.
>
> > 3) Why wasn't this process more open?
>
> It doesn't need to be.
>
> If it is collusion for a few ISP's to get together in one location
> and peer then well, anyone at a PAIX, a MAE, a Telehouse, or any
> number of other locations is guilty of colluding with other people
> at the same location.  There is a long tradition of ISP's meeting
> somewhere in the middle, it's just often been hidden in telco
> circuits (each side buys a half circuit to some telco meeting point
> in the middle).  Now they are putting routers in the middle meeting
> point, what changed, nothing.
>
> If anything this is good for the small ISP, because before you had
> to be a telco and be able to deliver half circuits to a telco
> meeting point to get good peering.  Now there is some hope that
> requirement would be minimized in the future.
>
> Next thing you know the fact that Ford and GM both make cars that
> run on Unleaded Gas and force you to buy from these central
> distrubution points run by Exxon/Mobil will be because they are
> colluding against the people making {natural gas,electric,fuel
> cell} cars.

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