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Re: The large ISPs and Peering
From: Leo Bicknell <bicknell () ufp org>
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 10:46:24 -0400
On Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 10:38:53AM -0400, Curtis Maurand wrote:
We can look at Opec for starters. The Steel price fixings from the "consotium" of american steel companies during the 50's and 60's. What makes you think telecomm is any different than any other business? There have been numerous hand slappings around price fixing by "consortiums" throughout the 70's, 80's and 90's.
Companies don't have to join OPEC to sell oil. Companies don't have to join a Steel consortium to make or sell Steel. If UUNet and Sprint didn't peer the Internet would no longer function in the way we expect. There is a fundamental business here in that ISP's are _required_ to do business with each other in order to make the Internet work as users expect. ISP's will always have business ties to each other, in the form of paid/free transit/peering. Making that go away makes it all cease to work, completely. So, let's try again. These people already do business with each other, and are forced to by the technology, and customer expectations. They are trying to reduce their costs. What's the problem? If down the road a _qualified_ peer is rejected from these spots because "we don't like you" then you might have a case. -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell () ufp org Systems Engineer - Internetworking Engineer - CCIE 3440 Read TMBG List - tmbg-list-request () tmbg org, www.tmbg.org
Current thread:
- The large ISPs and Peering Peering Resistance (Jul 24)
- Re: The large ISPs and Peering Leo Bicknell (Jul 25)
- Re: The large ISPs and Peering Curtis Maurand (Jul 25)
- RE: The large ISPs and Peering Jeb R. Linton (Jul 25)
- RE: The large ISPs and Peering Daniel Golding (Jul 25)
- RE: The large ISPs and Peering Jeb R. Linton (Jul 25)
- RE: The large ISPs and Peering David Diaz (Jul 25)
- RE: The large ISPs and Peering Curtis Maurand (Jul 26)
- Re: The large ISPs and Peering Jeff Aitken (Jul 26)
- Re: The large ISPs and Peering Curtis Maurand (Jul 27)
- Re: The large ISPs and Peering Leo Bicknell (Jul 27)
- Re: The large ISPs and Peering Steven J. Sobol (Jul 27)
- Re: The large ISPs and Peering Christian Kuhtz (Jul 27)
- Re: The large ISPs and Peering Curtis Maurand (Jul 27)
- Re: The large ISPs and Peering David Diaz (Jul 27)
- RE: The large ISPs and Peering Daniel Golding (Jul 25)
- Re: The large ISPs and Peering Leo Bicknell (Jul 25)
- Re: The large ISPs and Peering Robert E. Seastrom (Jul 26)
- Re: The large ISPs and Peering Fletcher E Kittredge (Jul 26)
- Re: The large ISPs and Peering Steve Feldman (Jul 25)
- RE: The large ISPs and Peering Daniel Golding (Jul 26)
