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RE: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone?
From: George Bonser <gbonser () seven com>
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 16:35:11 -0700
Hello, I wouldn't consider myself a network engineer, nor do I have any formal training, but why don't ISPs peer with every other ISP? It would only save EVERYONE money if they did this, no? Only issue I see is with possibly hijacked / malicious AS owners, but that's not very common to do without being caught.The answer to _every_ question that starts of "why don't they..." is "money". Who pays for the circuits to establish a 'peering connection' with an ISP half-the world away? How much does traffic does "Joes Bait Shop and ISP" in Painted Privvy, Nebraska have with a community ISP in Honshu, JP?"
There are a lot of considerations. How many peering sessions can your hardware support? How many peering locations are you going to need? What will the internal network to tie all those together look like. Will you now need to upgrade your core? Will adding a new peer place another peering agreement at risk by changing the traffic balance? So even if the peering itself is "free", the infrastructure required to support large scale peering at multiple locations can be quite expensive. Are you going to want to haul traffic from New Jersey to California to hand it to a peer who hauls the traffic all the way back to New Jersey again? Does your router in Kansas City want to hand the traffic to the peer in New York or in Seattle? For a small regional network, peering can be easy. For a large network that spans a continent, it can be pretty hard.
Current thread:
- Re: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone?, (continued)
- Re: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone? George Herbert (Jun 06)
- Re: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone? Owen DeLong (Jun 06)
- RE: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone? Leigh Porter (Jun 07)
- Re: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone? Jay Ashworth (Jun 07)
- Re: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone? Jared Mauch (Jun 07)
- Re: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone? bmanning (Jun 07)
- RE: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone? George Bonser (Jun 06)
- Re: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone? Joel Jaeggli (Jun 07)
- Re: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone? Jérôme Nicolle (Jun 06)
- Re: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone? bmanning (Jun 07)
- Re: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone? Jon Lewis (Jun 07)
- RE: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone? Drew Weaver (Jun 07)
- Re: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone? Matthew Palmer (Jun 07)
