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Re: Arguing against using public IP space
From: Karl Auer <kauer () biplane com au>
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 13:07:56 +1100
On Wed, 2011-11-16 at 12:20 +1100, Mark Andrews wrote:
You are making assumptions about how the NAT is designed. [...] Unless you know the internals of a NAT you cannot say whether it fails open or closed.
Indeed not! From 2010, during an identical discussion: http://seclists.org/nanog/2010/Apr/1166 To me, "fail" means that a system stops doing what it was designed to do. The results are by definition undefined. Others seem to think that "fail" means a kind of default.
it is actually feasible to probe through a NAT using LSR.
What's LSR in this context? Loose source routing, I'm guessing. Regards, K. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Karl Auer (kauer () biplane com au) +61-2-64957160 (h) http://www.biplane.com.au/kauer/ +61-428-957160 (mob) GPG fingerprint: DA41 51B1 1481 16E1 F7E2 B2E9 3007 14ED 5736 F687 Old fingerprint: B386 7819 B227 2961 8301 C5A9 2EBC 754B CD97 0156
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- Re: Arguing against using public IP space Owen DeLong (Nov 15)
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- Re: Arguing against using public IP space Joe Greco (Nov 15)
- Re: Arguing against using public IP space Jay Ashworth (Nov 15)
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- Re: Arguing against using public IP space Leigh Porter (Nov 15)
- Re: Arguing against using public IP space Owen DeLong (Nov 15)
- Re: Arguing against using public IP space Jay Ashworth (Nov 15)
- Re: Arguing against using public IP space Mark Andrews (Nov 15)
- Re: Arguing against using public IP space Karl Auer (Nov 15)
- Re: Arguing against using public IP space Owen DeLong (Nov 16)
- Re: Arguing against using public IP space Jay Ashworth (Nov 16)
- Re: Arguing against using public IP space Ray Soucy (Nov 16)
- Re: Arguing against using public IP space Dave Hart (Nov 16)
- Re: Arguing against using public IP space Owen DeLong (Nov 16)
- Re: Arguing against using public IP space William Herrin (Nov 15)
- Re: Arguing against using public IP space Mark Andrews (Nov 15)
- Re: Arguing against using public IP space Jay Ashworth (Nov 15)
- Re: Arguing against using public IP space Mark Andrews (Nov 15)
- Re: Arguing against using public IP space Owen DeLong (Nov 16)
