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Re: 202212160543.AYC Re: eMail Conventions


From: Pim van Stam <pim () vanstam-ict nl>
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 16:58:02 +0100

Hello Abe,

Actually there is a RFC describing Netiquette Guidelines from 1995 (rfc 1855), with guidelines still valid today.
See https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc1855

Best regards,

Pim van Stam

On 16 Dec 2022, at 16:05, Abraham Y. Chen <aychen () avinta com> wrote:

Dear Bill, Et al.:

0)  Ever since I signed up to the NANOG List, I have been getting complaints about my eMail style, format, etc. Since 
I could not find any document that clearly stated the guidelines and no one cared about providing an explicit lead, 
it has been a very frustrating experience. As I explained previously, my best understanding of an eMail is that it is 
an electronic equivalent of the traditional postal letter. We should start from following the old business 
correspondence protocol and then enhance it by taking advantage of the available electronic facility. Beyond that, an 
eMail is a literary work from an individual writer's own "creativity". A receiver can do anything possible about 
handling an eMail, but should refrain from imposing "rules" to the writer, unless there is a mutual consent. From 
time to time in the past, I did get questions from various contacts about what was I doing. Upon describing my 
rationales, most accepted them. Some even started to mimic my approaches. However, feedback on this List was 
exceptionally strong, it was quite distracting. Thus, I tried my best to minimize the rough spots, so that we could 
carry on the technical discussions.

1)  "On 2022-12-01 23:54, nanog wrote: ...  1) Your emails do not conform to the list standards (changing subject 
lines with every reply making it impossible to digest or follow.) ...   ":

  The above from you was the most recent feedback that I got. It stirred up my curiosity on this topic again. Since I 
had some slack time during the past few days, I decided to look into the "threading". I have been using ThunderBird 
eMail client software ever since its introduction, but never bothered about using its Message Threads facility 
because my own subject line tagging technique seemed to be sufficient. After a bit of fiddling, I was able to get 
ThunderBird to display messages organized in threads. Below is one such example. As you can see, my practice of 
continuously prefixing timestamps to the "Subject" line of messages in a thread seems to conform to ThunderBird's 
mechanism! Now, I would appreciate very much to see an example of how your eMail system handles the message threads. 
So that we can compare notes. Thanks,


Q. E. D.

Happy Holidays!

Abe (2022-12-16 10:04 EST)

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