Re: [External] Re: Normal ARIN registration service fees for LRSA entrants after 31 Dec 2023 (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Availability of the Legacy Fee Cap for New LRSA Entrants Ending as of 31 December 2023)

[Rubens Kuhl <rubensk () gmail com>]

On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 10:41 AM William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 7:32 PM Rubens Kuhl <rubensk () gmail com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 9:46 AM William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote:
> > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 4:07 PM Randy Bush <randy () psg com> wrote:
> > > > > You could try suggesting IANA/PTI/ICANN to have a different RPKI trust
> > > > > anchor and provide such services to legacy block holders.
> > > >
> > > > the rpki design cabal assumed the iana would be the rpki root.  rir
> > > > power players blocked that.  so each rir is 0/0.  brilliant, eh?
> > >
> > > Which means that all you'd need is a volunteer group with "street
> > > cred" to set up an RPKI for legacy holders and then convince folks to
> > > use their trust anchor too. Or have I missed something?
> >
> > Merit, perhaps ?
> >
> > But they would need to do a much stricter validation that they
> > currently have in RADB, which is more like Sledgehammer motto "Trust
> > me, I know what I'm doing".
>
> Hi Rubens,
>
> Last I checked, Merit was -really- expensive for RADB. I don't really
> see getting more than about 5 figures total per year out of the legacy
> registrants for RPKI, if that much. I think it'd have to be a
> volunteer effort or something funded by someone who finds it to their
> advantage that the legacy registrants publish RPKI records. Like the
> way Letsencrypt is funded.


Legacy holders are sitting on millions or billions worth of assets.
RADB USD 595 a year is pennies in comparison, and USD 1k or 2k a year
for the RPKI service would still be 1E-10 of the asset value.

Rubens