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Re: New home builders without wires


From: Tom Deligiannis <tom.deligiannis () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2024 09:23:28 -0600

NDI or similar? I don't follow. Cable TV, Cable Internet and sat TV aren't
distributed (to homes) using NDI, they use coax.

On Thu, Dec 5, 2024 at 1:37 AM Joly MacFie <joly () punkcast com> wrote:


How else would you distribute cable and sat tv?
NDI or similar



On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 1:15 PM Tom Deligiannis <tom.deligiannis () gmail com>
wrote:

How else would you distribute cable and sat tv? I would never buy a home
or build a home if there weren't hard wired services to the home. The last
thing I want to do is run all media streaming and internet surfing through
a wireless 5g connection.

On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 8:13 AM Joly MacFie <joly () punkcast com> wrote:

Excuse my ignorance, but why, in this day and age, coax?

Joly

On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 7:14 AM Justin Streiner <streinerj () gmail com>
wrote:

When we built our new house 3 years ago, I had the electrician pull
Cat7 and coax to most of the rooms in the house, since it would be way
easier to do it before the drywall went up.  They initially resisted
because they had never worked with Cat7 before.  I struck a deal with them
where I bought the Cat7, they pulled it, and I terminated and tested it,
and they were OK with that.  Everything lands in the basement at our telco
demarc sits, and everything has been working perfectly since then.  The
rack where everything lands is also tied to the house ground.  I might
consider 5G as a backup to our terrestrial fiber option, but haven't gone
there yet.

The local electric utility tests our UPSs for free roughly once a month
;)

Thank you
jms

On Tue, Dec 3, 2024 at 11:53 AM Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com> wrote:

As some may remember from earlier this year, my friend was buying a
new
"semi-custom" home.  "Semi-custom" is a marketing term, meaning you
get to
choose (pay more) pre-determined builder options. It is not custom
designed.

The home builder was not installing any wired broadband utilities in
the
new neighborhood.  No cable coax, no telephone DSL, no fiber optic.
The
only option was wireless, with a special deal with a specific 5G
wireless
cellular provider.

Originally, the builder's sales agent (i.e. the people working in the
model home selling houses) said new homes didn't need (and would not
have)
a wired "demarc" location and no ethernet or coax outlets. Not my
house,
but I was surprised when I heard that. I like wired connections when
possible for any fixed devices, and WiFi only for mobile devices.

I visited his new house over the Thanksgiving Holiday.

The sales agent was partially wrong and partially correct. Never
believe
the sales agent spiel.

The built house came with exactly FOUR wired ethernet outlets in the
living room and each bedroom/office (x2 Cat6 jacks each outlet). But
no
wired DEMARC, no coax outlets, and no wired broadband utilities in the
neighhood. The wired ethernet jacks were needed because the wireless
5G
base station ended up in an upstairs bedroom window for signal
strength
reasons. The in-house wired ethernet was needed for a WiFi extender in
the living room.

I wouldn't be happy, but it seems to work for his family. The 5G deal
was
cheaper than what he was paying at his old house.

According to the real estate realtor, not the builder's sales agent,
broadband is now in the top three things home buyers want to know.
Some
states require the realtor MLS to disclose broadband access in the
home
listings. Broadband access disclosure not required in this state.



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