Re: New home builders without wires

[joel () joelesler net]

If I ever build the next house, I’ll ensure that Ethernet is installed just as extensively as electric wiring.

> On Dec 5, 2024, at 10:23, Tom Deligiannis <tom.deligiannis () gmail com> wrote:
>
> NDI or similar? I don't follow. Cable TV, Cable Internet and sat TV aren't distributed (to homes) using NDI, they use 
> coax.
>
> On Thu, Dec 5, 2024 at 1:37 AM Joly MacFie <joly () punkcast com <mailto:joly () punkcast com>> wrote:
> > > How else would you distribute cable and sat tv?
> > NDI or similar
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 1:15 PM Tom Deligiannis <tom.deligiannis () gmail com <mailto:tom.deligiannis () gmail com>> 
> > wrote:
> > > How else would you distribute cable and sat tv? I would never buy a home or build a home if there weren't hard 
> > > wired services to the home. The last thing I want to do is run all media streaming and internet surfing through a 
> > > wireless 5g connection.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 8:13 AM Joly MacFie <joly () punkcast com <mailto:joly () punkcast com>> wrote:
> > > > Excuse my ignorance, but why, in this day and age, coax?
> > > >
> > > > Joly
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 7:14 AM Justin Streiner <streinerj () gmail com <mailto:streinerj () gmail com>> wrote:
> > > > > When we built our new house 3 years ago, I had the electrician pull Cat7 and coax to most of the rooms in the 
> > > > > house, since it would be way easier to do it before the drywall went up.  They initially resisted because they 
> > > > > had never worked with Cat7 before.  I struck a deal with them where I bought the Cat7, they pulled it, and I 
> > > > > terminated and tested it, and they were OK with that.  Everything lands in the basement at our telco demarc sits, 
> > > > > and everything has been working perfectly since then.  The rack where everything lands is also tied to the house 
> > > > > ground.  I might consider 5G as a backup to our terrestrial fiber option, but haven't gone there yet.
> > > > >
> > > > > The local electric utility tests our UPSs for free roughly once a month ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you
> > > > > jms
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Dec 3, 2024 at 11:53 AM Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com <mailto:sean () donelan com>> wrote:
> > > > > > As some may remember from earlier this year, my friend was buying a new 
> > > > > > "semi-custom" home.  "Semi-custom" is a marketing term, meaning you get to 
> > > > > > choose (pay more) pre-determined builder options. It is not custom 
> > > > > > designed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The home builder was not installing any wired broadband utilities in the 
> > > > > > new neighborhood.  No cable coax, no telephone DSL, no fiber optic. The 
> > > > > > only option was wireless, with a special deal with a specific 5G wireless 
> > > > > > cellular provider.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Originally, the builder's sales agent (i.e. the people working in the 
> > > > > > model home selling houses) said new homes didn't need (and would not have) 
> > > > > > a wired "demarc" location and no ethernet or coax outlets. Not my house, 
> > > > > > but I was surprised when I heard that. I like wired connections when 
> > > > > > possible for any fixed devices, and WiFi only for mobile devices.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I visited his new house over the Thanksgiving Holiday.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The sales agent was partially wrong and partially correct. Never believe 
> > > > > > the sales agent spiel.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The built house came with exactly FOUR wired ethernet outlets in the 
> > > > > > living room and each bedroom/office (x2 Cat6 jacks each outlet). But no 
> > > > > > wired DEMARC, no coax outlets, and no wired broadband utilities in the 
> > > > > > neighhood. The wired ethernet jacks were needed because the wireless 5G 
> > > > > > base station ended up in an upstairs bedroom window for signal strength 
> > > > > > reasons. The in-house wired ethernet was needed for a WiFi extender in 
> > > > > > the living room.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I wouldn't be happy, but it seems to work for his family. The 5G deal was 
> > > > > > cheaper than what he was paying at his old house.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > According to the real estate realtor, not the builder's sales agent, 
> > > > > > broadband is now in the top three things home buyers want to know. Some 
> > > > > > states require the realtor MLS to disclose broadband access in the home 
> > > > > > listings. Broadband access disclosure not required in this state.
> > > >
> > > >
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