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Re: Implementing Decentralized RPKI with Blockchain Technology
From: Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2024 12:11:44 -0500
We're talking about what an RIR can do if ordered by a court with jurisdiction. Remember: a court ordered AFRINIC to do some pretty remarkable things in the not too distant past.
Sure, but my point is still the same. If at any point, we cannot trust that an RIR is the authoritative record holder of IP allocations , be it malfeasance/negligence, or a legal/government entity forcing them to take an action outside of established policy, then RPKI is severely crippled, if not useless. However, I think it's an overblown concern. If a government entity has the courts in their pocket to force an RIR to do a thing, they have the power to do abou 10 other much easier things that would actually prevent full access to the thing they don't like. ( I'm taking your servers, I'm forcing you to unplug routers, etc) Doesn't really make sense for them to force the RIR to do a think that would only disrupt access, not prevent it entirely. On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 8:24 PM William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote:
On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 2:44 PM Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc> wrote:Yes, you're correct on that point. Fundamentally though, if an RIR actually did that, it's effectively theend of RPKI, and seismic damage to the internet at large. We're talking about what an RIR can do if ordered by a court with jurisdiction. Remember: a court ordered AFRINIC to do some pretty remarkable things in the not too distant past. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin bill () herrin us https://bill.herrin.us/
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- Re: Implementing Decentralized RPKI with Blockchain Technology Jason R. Rokeach via NANOG (Nov 13)
- Re: Implementing Decentralized RPKI with Blockchain Technology William Herrin (Nov 13)
- Re: Implementing Decentralized RPKI with Blockchain Technology Tom Beecher (Nov 13)
- Re: Implementing Decentralized RPKI with Blockchain Technology David Conrad via NANOG (Nov 14)
- Re: Implementing Decentralized RPKI with Blockchain Technology Robert McKay via NANOG (Nov 14)
- Re: Implementing Decentralized RPKI with Blockchain Technology Tom Beecher (Nov 14)
- Re: Implementing Decentralized RPKI with Blockchain Technology William Herrin (Nov 14)
- Re: Implementing Decentralized RPKI with Blockchain Technology Brandon Z. (Nov 14)
- Re: Implementing Decentralized RPKI with Blockchain Technology Tom Beecher (Nov 14)
- Re: Implementing Decentralized RPKI with Blockchain Technology William Herrin (Nov 14)
- Re: Implementing Decentralized RPKI with Blockchain Technology Tom Beecher (Nov 15)
- Re: Implementing Decentralized RPKI with Blockchain Technology Alex (Nov 15)
- RE: Implementing Decentralized RPKI with Blockchain Technology Vasilenko Eduard via NANOG (Nov 17)
- Re: Implementing Decentralized RPKI with Blockchain Technology David Conrad via NANOG (Nov 16)
- Re: Implementing Decentralized RPKI with Blockchain Technology Randy Bush (Nov 18)
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- Re: Implementing Decentralized RPKI with Blockchain Technology Alex (Nov 15)
- RE: Implementing Decentralized RPKI with Blockchain Technology Vasilenko Eduard via NANOG (Nov 17)
- RE: Implementing Decentralized RPKI with Blockchain Technology Brandon Price (Nov 15)
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