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Re: Hurricane Electric ISP custom routing via BGP communities
From: Jared Mauch <jared () puck nether net>
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2024 12:23:57 -0500
On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 03:34:55PM +0200, Saku Ytti wrote:
I wish this would have good outcomes, but almost no customers use advanced features, which cost money to develop and maintain. Likely by voting with your feet, support expensive customers aggregate to feature full companies, and support cheap customers aggregate to feature empty companies, creating perverse incentive, especially in such markets as IP transit, which is largely seen as interchangeable and the only metric is cost.
Yes, the challenge I've seen here is that as randy said "so give
me free transit", the issue that i've seen is propogation of routes much
further than expected which makes things far more difficult, and this
gets worse when you talk about any sort of anycast(ed) prefixes and how
you monitor those.
It takes a lot of time as well to debug and figure out if it's
an oddity of the routing architecture or something simpler that leads to
these issues. I also know that testing all these variants can be quite
hard as well, so there's something to be said about the investment
point. Also saku is right on the below as well:
Nanog is unfortunately not representative.
- Jared
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Current thread:
- Hurricane Electric ISP custom routing via BGP communities Edvinas Kairys (Nov 04)
- Re: Hurricane Electric ISP custom routing via BGP communities Christopher Hawker (Nov 04)
- Re: Hurricane Electric ISP custom routing via BGP communities Saku Ytti (Nov 04)
- Re: Hurricane Electric ISP custom routing via BGP communities Jared Mauch (Nov 05)
- Re: Hurricane Electric ISP custom routing via BGP communities Brandon Z. (Nov 13)
- Re: Hurricane Electric ISP custom routing via BGP communities Saku Ytti (Nov 04)
- Re: Hurricane Electric ISP custom routing via BGP communities Christopher Hawker (Nov 04)
- Re: Hurricane Electric ISP custom routing via BGP communities Mehmet (Nov 04)
- Re: Hurricane Electric ISP custom routing via BGP communities Jim Troutman (Nov 04)
- Re: Hurricane Electric ISP custom routing via BGP communities Peter Potvin via NANOG (Nov 04)
- Re: Hurricane Electric ISP custom routing via BGP communities Jon Lewis (Nov 04)
- Re: Hurricane Electric ISP custom routing via BGP communities Mike Lyon (Nov 04)
- Re: Hurricane Electric ISP custom routing via BGP communities Randy Bush (Nov 04)
- RE: Hurricane Electric ISP custom routing via BGP communities John Stitt (Nov 04)
- Re: Hurricane Electric ISP custom routing via BGP communities Jim Troutman (Nov 04)
