Re: Hurricane Electric ISP custom routing via BGP communities

["Brandon Z." <Brandon () huize asia>]

I’m not sure what features their paid BGP community version includes—is it
only blackholing? Does it support not exporting to specific regions or
ASNs? This could help us optimize routing. Their cost-performance ratio is
very high, and they provide free IPv6 transit at the IXP. My colleague
mentioned that their Layer 2 transport seems to be software-based, similar
to using protocols like GRE. I believe they’re one of the few ISPs that
support MTU 9000?
*Brandon Z.*
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On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 at 12:25, Jared Mauch <jared () puck nether net> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 03:34:55PM +0200, Saku Ytti wrote:
> > I wish this would have good outcomes, but almost no customers use
> > advanced features, which cost money to develop and maintain.
> >
> > Likely by voting with your feet, support expensive customers aggregate
> > to feature full companies, and support cheap customers aggregate to
> > feature empty companies, creating perverse incentive, especially in
> > such markets as IP transit, which is largely seen as interchangeable
> > and the only metric is cost.
>
>         Yes, the challenge I've seen here is that as randy said "so give
> me free transit", the issue that i've seen is propogation of routes much
> further than expected which makes things far more difficult, and this
> gets worse when you talk about any sort of anycast(ed) prefixes and how
> you monitor those.
>
>         It takes a lot of time as well to debug and figure out if it's
> an oddity of the routing architecture or something simpler that leads to
> these issues.  I also know that testing all these variants can be quite
> hard as well, so there's something to be said about the investment
> point.  Also saku is right on the below as well:
>
> > Nanog is unfortunately not representative.
>
>         - Jared
>
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