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Re: IEEE MACsec


From: Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:29:07 -0400


Regarding speed, the first few pages I hit made a comment that it was
slower because of packet overhead. I'm reading more and that is less of
a concern.


There's certainly a penalty paid for the extra time encrypting and
decrypting , which of course can aggregate over a large number of protected
links.

But unless you're trying to manage latency budgets in the microseconds
range it's not likely to be an issue.

On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 3:01 PM John Schiel <jschiel () flowtools net> wrote:


Thanks.

I threw this out there not knowing how fast someone would respond.

I only heard about this recently and am surprised it as as old as it is.

Regarding speed, the first few pages I hit made a comment that it was
slower because of packet overhead. I'm reading more and that is less of
a concern.

--jas

On 10/21/24 12:28 PM, Saku Ytti wrote:
On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 at 20:34, John Schiel <jschiel () flowtools net> wrote:

      1) May not work over wireless LAN devices?
I guess it depends on wireless technology, but 802.11xyzzy comes with
an encryption solution already so isn't really a target of interest.

      2) Needs a centralized key server.
Not really, implementation detail.

      3) May not be supportable on all devices?
Definitely not supported on all devices, you tend to pay extra, but
getting an increasingly small premium to pay. May become essentially
free, depending on demand.

Purported to be faster on the LAN than IPsec because MACsec is on layer
2.
Speed doesn't have anything to do with layer2 or layer3, you may be
assuming that ipsec is software and macsec is hardware which may be
true, but is implementation detail. For example Juniper Trio can do
some forms of IPSEC on the same hardware as MACSEC at the same
performance profile.


It is not exactly new technology, these devices have existed for +decade
now?




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