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Re: outages list badly broken, flooding messages


From: virendra rode via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2025 11:19:28 -0700

I want to sincerely apologize for the current state, this situation
should not have unfolded in this manner. Our original intention was to
conduct a gradual migration to minimize any disruption to the list.
However, given the persistent challenges we’ve encountered with PUCK
(Mailman), we are now opting for a decisive big bang cutover to ensure
we move forward effectively and efficiently.

Thank you for your understanding as we navigate this transition.

I will provide additional updates soon.

/vrode


On Sun, 2025-04-27 at 12:26 -0400, Glenn McGurrin via NANOG wrote:
I've already received 76 copies of
"Re: [Outages-discussion] Lists dead - after action report?"
and continue receiving them every few minutes, apologies, 77 copies
now, 
this is clearly badly broken, I do understand this is a volunteer run
list, but normally I do want to receive notifications as it's
generally 
important if it's on this list, but currently I'm looking at having
to 
block the list as it's sending my notifications nuts.


Also as an aside, I'd hesitated offering this before, not feeling
like I 
was known enough or had enough standing in the community for it to be
accepted and used, but if help is needed figuring out the issues, or
if 
it would help the community to have a backup list, running mailman or
potentially for added diversity running a different mailing list 
software, it's been a bit but I've used sympa before as well as
mailman 
to run lists, I'm happy to host a secondary backup list(s) to offer
some 
extra redundancy to the community (or if people really wanted to have
someone take over the main I'm willing to, but I'm not asking for
that 
or expecting anyone wants that), I know some mention has been made in
a 
thread somewhere about adding redundancy to the list but nothing
about 
the form of that redundancy.

FWIW up to 96 copies now as I write this, it's been going on for
about 
an hour and a half at this point, I held of sending anything
initially 
hoping it would be jumped on and at least the sending shut down even
if 
that meant taking any remaining online part of the list down for now 
until there was time to fix it, as I get it, it's Sunday, people have
plans, etc, at this point all I'd ask to be expedited is shutting it 
down until such time as people have time to fix it, not for people to
abandon plans on a Sunday to root cause this and fully fix it.
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