Re: outages list badly broken, flooding messages

[virendra rode via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>]

Making the leap from PUCK to PCH. Woody has graciously volunteered to
assist with this transition 


/vrode


On Sun, 2025-04-27 at 14:03 -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
> Meaning fixing Puck or the divorce of Outages from Puck?
>
>
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> Mike Hammett
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "virendra rode via NANOG" <nanog () lists nanog org>
> To: nanog () lists nanog org
> Cc: "virendra rode" <virendra.rode () gmail com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2025 1:19:28 PM
> Subject: Re: outages list badly broken, flooding messages
>
> I want to sincerely apologize for the current state, this situation
> should not have unfolded in this manner. Our original intention was
> to
> conduct a gradual migration to minimize any disruption to the list.
> However, given the persistent challenges we’ve encountered with PUCK
> (Mailman), we are now opting for a decisive big bang cutover to
> ensure
> we move forward effectively and efficiently.
>
> Thank you for your understanding as we navigate this transition.
>
> I will provide additional updates soon.
>
> /vrode
>
>
> On Sun, 2025-04-27 at 12:26 -0400, Glenn McGurrin via NANOG wrote:
> > I've already received 76 copies of
> > "Re: [Outages-discussion] Lists dead - after action report?"
> > and continue receiving them every few minutes, apologies, 77 copies
> > now, 
> > this is clearly badly broken, I do understand this is a volunteer
> > run
> > list, but normally I do want to receive notifications as it's
> > generally 
> > important if it's on this list, but currently I'm looking at having
> > to 
> > block the list as it's sending my notifications nuts.
> >
> >
> > Also as an aside, I'd hesitated offering this before, not feeling
> > like I 
> > was known enough or had enough standing in the community for it to
> > be
> > accepted and used, but if help is needed figuring out the issues,
> > or
> > if 
> > it would help the community to have a backup list, running mailman
> > or
> > potentially for added diversity running a different mailing list 
> > software, it's been a bit but I've used sympa before as well as
> > mailman 
> > to run lists, I'm happy to host a secondary backup list(s) to offer
> > some 
> > extra redundancy to the community (or if people really wanted to
> > have
> > someone take over the main I'm willing to, but I'm not asking for
> > that 
> > or expecting anyone wants that), I know some mention has been made
> > in
> > a 
> > thread somewhere about adding redundancy to the list but nothing
> > about 
> > the form of that redundancy.
> >
> > FWIW up to 96 copies now as I write this, it's been going on for
> > about 
> > an hour and a half at this point, I held of sending anything
> > initially 
> > hoping it would be jumped on and at least the sending shut down
> > even
> > if 
> > that meant taking any remaining online part of the list down for
> > now 
> > until there was time to fix it, as I get it, it's Sunday, people
> > have
> > plans, etc, at this point all I'd ask to be expedited is shutting
> > it 
> > down until such time as people have time to fix it, not for people
> > to
> > abandon plans on a Sunday to root cause this and fully fix it.
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