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[NANOG] Re: How can the IP spoofing problem be solved within a country?


From: firincitaygun--- via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2025 06:40:40 -0000

In Türkiye, operators provide internet service to every customer with cgnat. Naturally, spoofing is not possible on 
these IPs. This may be the explanation for the IP blocks you see on the page you sent.

According to my guess, most of the people who download and run spoofer want to do IP spoofing and have unintentionally 
contributed to the project (yes, I have seen examples recently).

If a customer buys a static IP, they are taken to the public zone. Data centers and other customers who buy a public IP 
or uplink can generally do IP spoofing. Just a rumor, but I heard that an ISP in our country recently (still) dared to 
attack data centers with IP spoofing over its own infrastructure (still just a rumor).

Depends on your source of authority. If you're constructing a
government mandate then you require anyone selling Internet service in
Turkey to implement BCP 38 on every paid Internet connection. That
means egress filtering everywhere they buy transit or peering service
inside or outside of Turkey and ingress filtering everywhere they sell
Internet service inside and outside of Turkey. And you set large and
escalating fines for every incident where the ISP is found to be in
non-compliance. Then you sit back and let capitalism do what it does
best: optimize for cost.

I definitely agree. I am not very active in the sector but I am generally luckier than most people in reaching the 
authorities.

The best plan I have in mind right now is to find the network topologies that TTNET, which is the central ISP in 
Türkiye, provides service to data centers, homes, and other ISPs, and to prepare a report that includes, in its 
simplest form, what can be done and how, what kind of a threat this poses to the country and the internet environment 
in general. Then all I have to do is print this report, give it to all the authorities I cross paths with, and run away 
:D

Sorry for the late reply, I spend a lot of time on research, everything you write is very valuable to me. 
Regards,
Taygun
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