Re: Where else do you hangout?

[Tom Beecher via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>]

> I would suggest the board or "moderation committee" send a simple survey to
> this list to identify what platform(s) are preferred.


The Moderation Committee doesn't have a say in what platforms are selected.
Their charter only asks them to moderate the mailing list and discord per
the Code of Conduct.

There has been much discussion amongst the membership at large about what
the point of Discord even is. It seems to be coming from a couple places.

1. The previous ED of the organization had ideas about 'NANOG As A
Service", essentially providing videos ,  software tools, etc to other NOGs
globally.
2. During COVID , when we were fully remote, the conference software being
used had that chat in there.
3. There's been talk for years of where the 'next generation of network
engineers' is going to come from. There are some who believe that having
things like Discord is going to draw people in.

Personally, I don't think there needs to be any officially endorsed NANOG
chat service. Having something during the meetings can be kind of nice to
connect with colleagues not present, but it really just ends up being a
real time side chat with people on site who then aren't paying attention to
the preso on stage. Between meetings, seems even less useful. I also feel
that the idea that a Discord server will pull in or retain people to
meetings is exceptionally misguided.

I have a document I intend to submit to the board and membership list in
October collecting thoughts from myself, and some other folks on this
topic, to try and get some discussion going on it.

On Thu, Aug 21, 2025 at 10:04 AM Shawn Solomon via NANOG <
nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:

> I would suggest the board or "moderation committee" send a simple survey to
> this list to identify what platform(s) are preferred.
> s
>
> On Thu, Aug 21, 2025 at 4:36 AM Brandon Butterworth via NANOG <
> nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:
>
> > On 21/08/2025 06:12:41, "Ryan Hamel via NANOG" <nanog () lists nanog org>
> > wrote:
> > > whereas Discord is very likely already running on a person's device.
> >
> > I have most networks apps installed but not that. Slack
> > seems to be way more prevalent but has a high paywall and
> > bins your data if you don't pay. Enterprises tolerate the pricing
> > to avoid Teams but it does not work well for open communities, on
> > several we are just tolerating it because it is the common client
> > people have on their devices (including locked down work devices).
> >
> > > Since I mentioned the Discord link in this thread, nine users have
> > joined, and their account ages span from 3-9 years. All it took for them
> to
> > join was clicking or tapping the link, which has very little to no
> friction.
> > Indeed. I have an old discord login that would add to those stats
> > but not be the indication you suggest.
> >
> > Due to splitters we tend to accumulate logins all over but that
> > does not mean we are active users with an app installed.
> >
> > Discord is one that I occasionally visit via the web site when
> > prompted and then not look at for another 6 months. There are too
> > many systems like this to poll, especially private web forums of
> > ix and such.
> >
> > Event driven email is way more useful.
> >
> > > All this proves my point that IRC simply does not have that level of
> > awareness, convenience, and ease of use.
> >
> > It's pretty trivial, even apps for it now
> >
> > brandon
> >
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