Re: Where else do you hangout?

[Tom Beecher via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>]

> Now with Zoom, Slack, MS Teams, Webex(Teams/Spark), etc I’m back in the
> world where I used to have a common client like Adium that aggregated it
> all together and don’t have that option really these days.  Ideally the
> services would work on some sort of federation/interop but there’s not a
> lot of motivation/justification for that.


Yeah Adium was very nice to aggregate all the things in a single place.

But yeah, the decade+ trend has to move away from federation/interop since
more tightly controlled ecosystems push those magical engagement numbers
up.

On Thu, Aug 21, 2025 at 10:01 AM Jared Mauch via NANOG <
nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:

> > On Aug 20, 2025, at 11:44 PM, steve ulrich via NANOG <
> nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:
> > the lindy effect for email is particularly strong in some communities.
> NANOG seems to be one of them.
>
> I think that for some of us, e-mail was the original version of IM, as it
> was/is the common cross-systems way to communicate with each other.  I was
> horrified when I was forced to sign up for an AIM account with one company
> but grew to be ok with it as a way to reach colleagues.
>
> If you were always online, you could have a bot manage your presence on
> IRC to maintain history and other elements, but these days you take
> something like Slack/Discord and whatnot and it’s very much like that but
> “in the cloud” as a service vs having to each run your own bot.
>
> It also doesn’t have the annoying/confusing IETF-type stuff that was in
> the Jabber protocol where you could have per-device presences that are
> different and lost messages because they sent something to a machine or
> device that won’t be online for a few days.
>
> Now with Zoom, Slack, MS Teams, Webex(Teams/Spark), etc I’m back in the
> world where I used to have a common client like Adium that aggregated it
> all together and don’t have that option really these days.  Ideally the
> services would work on some sort of federation/interop but there’s not a
> lot of motivation/justification for that.
>
> - Jared
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