Re: Cisco ASR9902 SNMP polling ... is interesting

[Mel Beckman via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>]

Thanks. I knew we were not so out to lunch! If you don’t push back on bullies, they take over the community. It crops 
up on nanog periodically. :(

-mel via cell

> On Aug 4, 2025, at 5:54 AM, Joe Loiacono via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:
>
> Hi Mel, for what it's worth, I could not figure out what they were referring to by Saku's comments. I saw no 
> justification for their complaint. A bit out of character for Saku, also,
>
> Joe
>
> > On 8/2/2025 7:23 PM, Mel Beckman via NANOG wrote:
> > I’ll just let the incivility of you both stand.
> >
> > -mel
> >
> > On Aug 2, 2025, at 3:52 PM, Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Mel-
> >
> > Saku did not call *you* any names. He called your *incorrect statements* in this thread 'bizzard drivel'. Which he 
> > is absolutely correct about. While your intentions may certainly have been to help, your statements here have been 
> > frankly dead wrong and did not accomplish that.
> >
> > Probably just want to take the L here.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 2, 2025 at 5:34 PM Mel Beckman via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org<mailto:nanog () lists nanog org>> 
> > wrote:
> > Saku,
> >
> > What is actually appalling is that a member of NANOG calls “bizarre drivel” the honest and sincere attempts by other 
> > members to help identify the possible problem. There’s no cause to be uncivil, people can disagree without stooping 
> > to name-calling.
> >
> >  -mel
> >
> > > > On Aug 2, 2025, at 11:46 AM, Saku Ytti via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org<mailto:nanog () lists nanog org>> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, 2 Aug 2025 at 21:02, Tom Beecher via NANOG
> > > <nanog () lists nanog org<mailto:nanog () lists nanog org>> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I don't have in depth knowledge of Cisco's SNMP implementations, or even
> > > > the ASR platform specifically, but if Cisco TAC is telling you this is
> > > > 'normal', they are completely full of shit, and you should click any and
> > > > every 'escalate' button you can find.
> > > >
> > > > This almost sounds like a default control plane DDOS policer / LPTS ,
> > > > something like that.
> > > There are various complicated reasons for this, LPTS policer is
> > > unlikely culprit, but possible. Bug search will show various DDTS with
> > > poor SNMP performance outcome, most of them are unrelated to LPTS.
> > >
> > > But absolutely correct, the right solution is to escalate. In common
> > > case this would be SE from your account team, who would fight for you
> > > internally.
> > >
> > >
> > > It is appalling that OP came to nanog after correctly suspecting TAC
> > > is gaslighting them, some community member piled on with what can only
> > > be described as a bizarre drivel.
> > > --
> > >  ++ytti
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