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Re: [nanog] Noisy prefixes in BGP


From: Romain Fontugne via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2025 19:16:03 +0000

Thanks Aaron!

Romain


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From: Block, Aaron
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2025 03:58
To: [IIJ] Fontugne Romain
Cc: Geoff Huston; NANOG
Subject: Re: [nanog] Noisy prefixes in BGP

Hello,
        We are looking into this issue.

Thank you,

Aaron Block




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Aaron Block                                   Akamai Technologies
ablock () akamai com   GPG KeyID: 0xD098B69F   Senior Principal Network Engineer
Voice: +1-617-444-2892                        as20940

On Feb 9, 2025, at 1:56 AM, Romain Fontugne via NANOG <nanog () nanog org> wrote:

Hi Geoff,

The same has been going on in IPv6. The 50 noisiest prefixes (and a whole bunch of them originate in Akamai) 
generate a whopping 34% of the total IPv6 update load, and the
noisiest 50 Origin AS's generate an even more impressive 74% of the total IpPv6 update load. Akamai's AS 36813 
generated 27% of total IPv6 update load over the past 14 days.

Thanks that confirms what we see. If there is someone here from AS36183 I guess it is something worth looking at.

Romain

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From: Geoff Huston <gih902 () gmail com>
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2025 14:41
To: [IIJ] Fontugne Romain
Cc: NANOG
Subject: Re: Noisy prefixes in BGP

Hi Romain


We are seeing in RIS data a constant flow of update messages from a few ASes, here is the list of the top prefixes:

┌─────────────────────┬────────────┬──────────────┐
│       prefix        │ origin_asn │ num_announce │
│       varchar       │  varchar   │    int64     │
├─────────────────────┼────────────┼──────────────┤
│ 169.145.140.0/23    │ 6979       │       843376 │
│ 2a03:eec0:3212::/48 │ 22616      │       435608 │
│ 172.224.198.0/24    │ 36183      │       380117 │
│ 172.226.208.0/24    │ 36183      │       374040 │
│ 172.226.148.0/24    │ 36183      │       367083 │

You might also want to check out these two update reports:

   
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.potaroo.net/bgpupds/reports/bgpupd.html__;!!GjvTz_vk!SD6KJxNhU4aKiWpcXriRDtauGeg5dxFRdkfMVwBPbE88V6WbzJIGdnpOXaK6Aashuw4KDnAHuQ$

and

   
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.potaroo.net/bgpupds/reports/v6-bgpupd.html__;!!GjvTz_vk!SD6KJxNhU4aKiWpcXriRDtauGeg5dxFRdkfMVwBPbE88V6WbzJIGdnpOXaK6Aashuw4TrhLPtg$

These reports have been going on for a couple of decades now. It operates over a rolling 14 day window.

Over the last 14 days in IPv4 the noisiest 50 prefixes generate 5% of the total update load, The 50 noisiest Origin 
AS's generate 24% of the total 14-day BGP update load

The same has been going on in IPv6. The 50 noisiest prefixes (and a whole bunch of them originate in Akamai) generate 
a whopping 34% of the total IPv6 update load, and the noisiest 50 Origin AS's generate an even more impressive 74% of 
the total IpPv6 update load. Akamai's AS 36813 generated 27% of total IPv6 update load over the past 14 days.

(There are 40,300 30 second MRAI intervals in a 14 day period so when a prefix is being updated 33,000 times in 145 
days its basically being updated as fast as many BGP implementations will let you!)


Geoff






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