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Re: AT&t ABF NYC


From: Dan Stralka <mrsyeltzin () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2025 14:49:00 -0500

Can anyone explain the correlation here?  ABF primarily exists in
commercial buildings. Fixed wireless would ride off of capacity and
backhaul deployed for mobile service, which they are continuing to sell.
Does the law cover commercial entities or just personal accounts?

It seems retaliatory and not well thought out. ABF comes in via separate
infrastructure from ADI, so they're abandoning equipment. And I don't see a
cost savings for removing business 5G plans. You still have 5G towers.

Dan

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On Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 13:19 Robert DeVita <radevita () mejeticks com> wrote:

Correct. Here is that announcement..

We are committed to providing reliable and affordable internet service to
customers across the country. However, the New York Affordable Broadband
Act imposes harmful rate regulations. These regulations make it
uneconomical for AT&T to invest in and expand our broadband infrastructure
in the state. The Act requires certain Internet Service Providers to offer
$15/mo. internet service to qualifying NY residents.



*As a result, effective 1/15/25, we will no longer offer AT&T Internet Air
for Business (AIA-B), our fixed-wireless internet service, or new AT&T
Business Fiber (ABF) to New York customers. Ordering and qualification
systems now reflect this change.*



*What's Happening with Existing AIA-B Customers in NY*



Customers can keep their existing AIA-B service until 3/1/25 at no charge.

Customers *must do one of the following before 3/1/25*, when their AIA-B
services will be disconnected:

   - Switch to AT&T Wireless Broadband (AWB) with special promotional
   pricing
   
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   - Take no action, and their AIA-B services will be disconnected 3/1/25

Existing customers are being contacted via email, direct mail, and bill
message to inform them of the changes and offer the option to migrate to
AWB.


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*From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+radevita=mejeticks.com () nanog org> on behalf
of Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
*Sent:* Thursday, January 16, 2025 9:56 AM
*Cc:* nanog () nanog org <nanog () nanog org>
*Subject:* Re: AT&t ABF NYC

Yes, and that AT&T already said they were pulling their "fixed wireless"
service out of New York State for that very reason.



-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com

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*From: *sronan () ronan-online com
*To: *"Tom Beecher" <beecher () beecher cc>
*Cc: *"Mike Hammett" <nanog () ics-il net>, nanog () nanog org
*Sent: *Thursday, January 16, 2025 8:27:39 AM
*Subject: *Re: AT&t ABF NYC

I’m assuming he’s referring to the New York State low income Internet
mandate that recently went into effect.



On Jan 16, 2025, at 9:25 AM, Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc> wrote:


Mike-

What specific government regulation or action are you asserting here that
caused this action?

On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 9:13 AM Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> wrote:

Government gets over involved in things they don't understand, and
businesses pull out.



-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com

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*From: *"Robert DeVita" <radevita () mejeticks com>
*To: *nanog () nanog org
*Sent: *Thursday, January 16, 2025 8:05:57 AM
*Subject: *AT&t ABF NYC

FYI. AT&T is discontinuing their ABF service in New York.

*What's Happening with Existing ABF Customers in NY*



AT&T Business Fiber customers in New York will be able to keep their
current ABF service until March 1 at no charge, as they find other options
for broadband service.



Customers *must do one of the following before 3/1/25*, when their ABF
services will be disconnected:

   - Sign a 12-month contract for existing ABF services at current rates
   - Switch to AT&T Dedicated Internet (ADI) or AWB with standard pricing
   - Take no action, and their ABF services will be disconnected on 3/1/25

Existing customers are being contacted via email and direct mail to inform
them of the changes and offer the option to either sign a 12-month contract
or migrate to AWB or ADI.



AT&T’s nationwide wireless service will not change in New York. AIA-B and
ABF are still offered in all other qualified locations and states. We value
our customers and AT&T will continue to support policies that promote
capital investment, innovation and a competitive market.


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