Re: AT&t ABF NYC

[Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>]

> I dont normally defend ATT, but…
>
> *"The plans are specifically priced at $15 per month for 25 Megabits per
> second (Mbps) download speeds and $20 per month for 200 Mbps. These prices
> must include recurring taxes, equipment rental fees, and other usage fees,
> with annual price increases capped at 2%."*
>
> $15/month for 25Mbps, and that price includes all equipment fees and
> taxes? Thats a little ridiculous given inflation and general cost of
> living. If it were $25/month - then maybe ATT should make it work, but $15
> is too low.


So that's close, but not 100%.

- Any plan 25Mb - 199Mb must be $15 a month , inclusive of all fees,
including equipment.
- Any plan 200Mb+ must be $20 a month , but the provider MAY charge
equipment rental + taxes and fees on top .

My understanding (from some ISP friends that lobbied on this) is that the
200Mb/$20 plan was a carrot to get ISPs to raise that minimum bandwidth
floor , since most would very much want to keep charging equipment fees. I
am in full agreement that $15 all in is a silly low number, doubly low if
you can't recoup equipment.

On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 3:02 PM John Von Essen <john () essenz com> wrote:

> I dont normally defend ATT, but…
>
> *"The plans are specifically priced at $15 per month for 25 Megabits per
> second (Mbps) download speeds and $20 per month for 200 Mbps. These prices
> must include recurring taxes, equipment rental fees, and other usage fees,
> with annual price increases capped at 2%."*
>
> $15/month for 25Mbps, and that price includes all equipment fees and
> taxes? Thats a little ridiculous given inflation and general cost of
> living. If it were $25/month - then maybe ATT should make it work, but $15
> is too low.
>
> -John
>
>
> On Jan 16, 2025, at 9:27 AM, sronan () ronan-online com wrote:
>
> I’m assuming he’s referring to the New York State low income Internet
> mandate that recently went into effect.
>
>
> https://broadbandbreakfast.com/new-yorks-15-broadband-law-takes-effect-wednesday/
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 16, 2025, at 9:25 AM, Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc> wrote:
>
> Mike-
>
> What specific government regulation or action are you asserting here that
> caused this action?
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 9:13 AM Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> wrote:
> Government gets over involved in things they don't understand, and
> businesses pull out.
>
>
>
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> From: "Robert DeVita" <radevita () mejeticks com>
> To: nanog () nanog org
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2025 8:05:57 AM
> Subject: AT&t ABF NYC
>
> FYI. AT&T is discontinuing their ABF service in New York.
>
> What's Happening with Existing ABF Customers in NY
>   AT&T Business Fiber customers in New York will be able to keep their
> current ABF service until March 1 at no charge, as they find other options
> for broadband service.
>  Customers must do one of the following before 3/1/25, when their ABF
> services will be disconnected:
> • Sign a 12-month contract for existing ABF services at current rates
> • Switch to AT&T Dedicated Internet (ADI) or AWB with standard pricing
> • Take no action, and their ABF services will be disconnected on 3/1/25
> Existing customers are being contacted via email and direct mail to inform
> them of the changes and offer the option to either sign a 12-month contract
> or migrate to AWB or ADI.
>  AT&T’s nationwide wireless service will not change in New York. AIA-B and
> ABF are still offered in all other qualified locations and states. We value
> our customers and AT&T will continue to support policies that promote
> capital investment, innovation and a competitive market.
>
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